Which player should the Mtl Canadiens pick with their 1 st choice?

[windycity]

It does though, when you look at the NHL release

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(3) Limit on Teams Winning a Lottery Draw

No single team will be able to advance in the Draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two (2) times in any five (5) year period. This limitation will not affect a Club’s ability to retain its presumptive Draft position in any Draft Lottery, nor would it preclude the possibility of the Club moving down in Draft Order to the extent other Clubs advance by reason of winning the Lottery Draws. For purposes of clarity, the limitation would attach to the team, not the specific pick.
"""

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14767

https://media.nhl.com/site/vasset/public/attachments/2021/03/14767/DraftLotteryMarch23.pdf

Obviously I am assuming here that "advancing in the draft order" = "moving up"

Unless I'm missing something, couldn't a team pick #1 as many times as 5 times in 5 years if they didn't move up more than twice? So, theoretically if the Habs finished dead last and #1 draft position and they never moved they could pick first each year. I know it's practically impossible but just trying to understand the mechanics

 

[windycity]

There's a lot to worry about but if his hockey sense is anything like what is projected he'll be better, not worse, at the next levels. Mysak may have had a bit of the same problem. From my limited knowledge he spent a lot of the early season trying to set up clumsy teammates, gave up on them, and started going to the net himself.

I think that's a valid point, he may well be more effective playing with guys with better hockey sense. Course the opposition will be a lot better so may not be as obvious stats wise

 

[Michelangelo]

Unless I'm missing something, couldn't a team pick #1 as many times as 5 times in 5 years if they didn't move up more than twice? So, theoretically if the Habs finished dead last and #1 draft position and they never moved they could pick first each year. I know it's practically impossible but just trying to understand the mechanics

They could, but they would still need the lottery results to go their way for each year

 

[MTL-rules]

They could, but they would still need the lottery results to go their way for each year

Which is something that won't happen... There are 3 lucky teams : edmonton, NJ and Buffalo... This no1 pick is probably going to be our last one in a long time...

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Yeah, that's the reason why I think he is *the* pick at #1. Size, strength, decent speed and hockey IQ are some pretty important checkboxes. As long as he is a dedicated young man, we can actually end up with something very special.

The fact he’s such a well-rounder player and a lot of the boxes are checked, coupled with that hockey IQ is what makes him a good pick at #1.

I mean when we look back what is it about Nick Suzuki that stands out so much? He’s not really great at anything? His mind is his magic, he’s just really good everywhere but his ability to learn and anticipate is what makes him special.

Wright is similar in that sense, one thing Wright has going for him is a very good shot, other than his IQ that’s one thing I find stands out. He’s going to be a scoring threat down the middle. A consistent 30-goal Center that has 40 in him potentially.

 

[windycity]

They could, but they would still need the lottery results to go their way for each year

Oh for sure, really low probability but wanted to make sure I understood the mechanics. Thanks

 

[Licou]

The fact he’s such a well-rounder player and a lot of the boxes are checked, coupled with that hockey IQ is what makes him a good pick at #1.

I mean when we look back what is it about Nick Suzuki that stands out so much? He’s not really great at anything? His mind is his magic, he’s just really good everywhere but his ability to learn and anticipate is what makes him special.

Wright is similar in that sense, one thing Wright has going for him is a very good shot, other than his IQ that’s one thing I find stands out. He’s going to be a scoring threat down the middle. A consistent 30-goal Center that has 40 in him potentially.

From all the youtube scouting videos I could find, yeah, his IQ and shot do stand out.

We'll see I guess :]

 

[jrom]

Are there any blogs/sites that offer some decent "scouting" or information about Wright?

Scouting Report: Shane Wright - Smaht Scouting

Smaht Scouting's Jordan Malette takes an in-depth look at Canadian top 2022 NHL Draft prospect Shane Wright (C, Kingston).

smahtscouting.com

 

[windycity]

The fact he’s such a well-rounder player and a lot of the boxes are checked, coupled with that hockey IQ is what makes him a good pick at #1.

I mean when we look back what is it about Nick Suzuki that stands out so much? He’s not really great at anything? His mind is his magic, he’s just really good everywhere but his ability to learn and anticipate is what makes him special.

Wright is similar in that sense, one thing Wright has going for him is a very good shot, other than his IQ that’s one thing I find stands out. He’s going to be a scoring threat down the middle. A consistent 30-goal Center that has 40 in him potentially.

This

 

[Licou]

Scouting Report: Shane Wright - Smaht Scouting

Smaht Scouting's Jordan Malette takes an in-depth look at Canadian top 2022 NHL Draft prospect Shane Wright (C, Kingston).

smahtscouting.com

Thank you mate!

 

[jrom]

Nope. Not at all. Suzuki is actually Bergeron. Wright is Tavares with a better D. Bergeron > Tavares not even a fair comparison.

MarkovsKnee compared him to Marner (at center) because Tavares doesn’t PK. Same concern relative to “soft play” under pressure. At CHL prospect game he scored a nice breakaway goal but was less visible after getting slammed hard by Noah Warren.

 

[Rob Sense]

Which is something that won't happen... There are 3 lucky teams : edmonton, NJ and Buffalo... This no1 pick is probably going to be our last one in a long time...

the hockey gods will ensure this.

 

[Riggins]

Too bad Wright can't go to the NCAA for a year and enroll in basket weaving and film studies courses. Kingston isn't a great option and neither is Montreal unless he comes in and wows everyone at camp.

 

[Championdumonde]

J'comprend pas que le Canadien n'ai pas repêché un petit gars de chez nous avec le 1er choix, à Montréal en plus! L'occasion était belle!
- J.I.C or Leroux after the draft.

I'm not as high as some are on Wright, and I still believe that he's easily #1

Yeah le "ptit gars de Sainte-Agathe" Jonathan Drouin really worked out for us, I'm with you and I'd just take the consensus #1, no gamble.

 

[Habs]

You don't need to be a superstar to be effective , people need to learn that.
It's cool to have a Matthews , Stamkos , Mcdavid and Draisailt of this world.

But having a Wright and Suzuki who can both get around 70 points with the good wingers is more than good.

People forget that Wright and Suzuki could easily be our top 6 centers for a whole decade.

The centers we never had in 2 decades.

It's a great start to a rebuild and going the right direction.

People need to be chill if he stays in the NHL and struggle in his first year or hes sent back to the OHL. Not because you are not a stud at 18 year olds means you are a bust.

a 70pt Center is a superstar in my books, i'm not sure if Wright is that at least on this collection of players in Montreal. I'm ok with Wright obviously , and I'm rooting for the kid.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

a 70pt Center is a superstar in my books, i'm not sure if Wright is that at least on this collection of players in Montreal. I'm ok with Wright obviously , and I'm rooting for the kid.

Even with scoring skyrocketing this year there's only 20 Cs that had >70 pts and only 6 teams that had 2

 

[bleuetbio]

Just take Shane Wright and dont look too much videos

 

[Paddy17]

Wrote this on the main thread on the boards earlier. I'll just repost an edited version of it here:


Wright put up 1.74 points per game after a slow start. He's been an exceptional player all his life. Yes, this year's a bit of a disapointment but up until this point he's been incredible.

So... why this year? We know he had injury, off year for covid, is playing for a bad coach... lots of reasons for an off year. To me, these are temporary things.

The best predictor of future success is past performance. This guy had the term 'generational' talent thrown around as he grew up. His current year doesn't measure up to that but I think his resume suggests that he's got franchise talent. Maybe not generational but... who cares?

We'll see. I haven't seen this guy play so my opinions are based on circumstances rather than viewing so I can't be very firm in my opinions here. I felt this way before Montreal was selected to draft him and feel the same way now.

His ceiling is franchise player. However, that certainly doesn't mean he'll hit it.

Another thing about Wright that people should take notice of: his physical conditionning. The guy is built like a rock and in great shape. Just look at his shoulders, traps, and forearms during interviews. He's got incredible commitment to conditionning.

 

[1909]

Just take Shane Wright and dont look too much videos

Gorton and Hughes are going to the Worlds to watch kids like Slaf, Nemec, Jirichek and Kemmell.

 

[Paddy17]

I am your worse than average observer here. But I find that some of the red flags for this player worrying that's all.. lack of intensity, no will to challenge defenders 1 on 1...

He does seem to have very high IQ though, so it's not all doom and gloom.

But this whole jack of all trades, master of none thing seems like a gamble. You need to be pretty special to perform in the NHL.

But yeah, my opinion is worth jack shit but it is what it is!

Some of the criticism I've seen about him not challenging defenders or "driving play" enough by carrying the puck and deking through everyone is actually something that is better and more transferable to the NHL. In juniors, talented kids can use their speed, skill or size to go circle around opposition, but when they get to the NHL, that doesn't work anymore.

Wright just does the right play by using his teammates by dishing the puck off quickly. That demonstrates high IQ that often translates very well to the NHL.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Hard to tell who the best choice is.

Wright missing so much time compared to the others, it's hard to tell where his ceiling is.

 

[Kriss E]

Even with scoring skyrocketing this year there's only 20 Cs that had >70 pts and only 6 teams that had 2

Gotta consider Games Played, when you do that it's actually 31 centers who averaged 70pts.
I wouldn't necessarily consider any 70pts center a superstar.
Anyways, semantics at this point I guess.

 

[Habs]

Gotta consider Games Played, when you do that it's actually 31 centers who averaged 70pts.
I wouldn't necessarily consider any 70pts center a superstar.
Anyways, semantics at this point I guess.

Even with scoring skyrocketing this year there's only 20 Cs that had >70 pts and only 6 teams that had 2

yup, we would be thrilled with a 65+ pt C

 

[Kriss E]

yup, we would be thrilled with a 65+ pt C

I definitely wouldn't though. Suzuki had 61pts. Plekanec and Koivu were about that too...we were never satisfied back then.
If Nick Suzuki is a 65pt Bergeron/Toews type of center, who will excel on defensive assignments, with a potential to have better offensive years...then sure. A 65pt center like Pleky though...no bueno.

 

[Habs]

I definitely wouldn't though. Suzuki had 61pts. Plekanec and Koivu were about that too...we were never satisfied back then.
If Nick Suzuki is a 65pt Bergeron/Toews type of center, who will excel on defensive assignments, with a potential to have better offensive years...then sure. A 65pt center like Pleky though...no bueno.

lemme clarify, a 65pt C on this team is a 100pt C on any other team because we have sucked balls for so long. I don't see Wright being a better player than Suzuki, and if they decided to package the #1 pick for a sweet package to draft at #3 I would be ok if we got a pick for next year. We really need help on the blueline to get the puck going on the PP too, our offense just can't get anything going on the PP