Which of these players do you consider #1C quality?

[Petey O]

Yes, that’s exactly why it makes logical sense.

Explain yourself.

 

[QJL]

Explain yourself.

I can’t explain it any better than you just did.

There are 32 spots for first line centers in the league. If I were to rank all centers, 1-32 would be 1C caliber, 33-64 would be 2C caliber, etc.

 

[Petey O]

I can’t explain it any better than you just did.

There are 32 spots for first line centers in the league. If I were to rank all centers, 1-32 would be 1C caliber, 33-64 would be 2C caliber, etc.

So every team in the league has a #1 C?

 

[QJL]

So every team in the league has a #1 C?

No. The 32 best centers in the league are 1Cs. They would all be first line centers if talent was equally distributed.

The Coyotes don’t have a center worthy of 1C or even a 2C ranking.

The Oilers have two centers worthy of a 1C ranking.

1C definition should be - capable of being a top line center in the NHL.

 

[Miro4Norris]

I feel like Hintz is a standout here. Only guy whose ability to be 1C cannot be questioned if you watch the games. Then Larkin, Thomas and Pettersson but they are more up-and-down guys

 

[ElGuapo]

I feel like Hintz is a standout here. Only guy whose ability to be 1C cannot be questioned if you watch the games. Then Larkin, Thomas and Pettersson but they are more up-and-down guys

I'm not sure people understand what they were supposed to do in the poll if only 33% of voters think Hintz is a #1C.

 

[Xirik]

No. The 32 best centers in the league are 1Cs. They would all be first line centers if talent was equally distributed.

The Coyotes don’t have a center worthy of 1C or even a 2C ranking.

The Oilers have two centers worthy of a 1C ranking.

1C definition should be - capable of being a top line center in the NHL.

Explain it for a third time and more slower. He'll eventually get it.

 

[canuckking1]

Then your definition on number one centers is different then mine. A 1 C should be good enough to be able to be played in all situations or score a literal buttload of goals or assists to offset that.

Does that make Jack Hughes not a number 1C? he doesn't fit your criteria.

 

[Xirik]

Does that make Jack Hughes not a number 1C? he doesn't fit your criteria.

He isn't and I don't think many think that at the moment. He's still developing and growing so in the future there probably is a chance but not right now.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

The most important thing would be to define "true" #1 center.

- top 10 center?
- top 32 center?
- top center on their team?

That's up to the voter - just a quick and dirty "Do I think this player is a #1C"?

 

[norrisnick]

That's up to the voter - just a quick and dirty "Do I think this player is a #1C"?

All of them would be Columbus' #1 so then quick and dirty vote for all of them.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

All of them would be Columbus' #1 so then quick and dirty vote for all of them.

If that's how you define #1C, go for it.

The question wording is:

Which are these guys are true #1C quality players?​

My interpretation is "on s theoretical average team, is this guy a #1C quality?"

In Columbus that would be a yes but for situation reasons. Opposite problem in Edmonton. I think EP is a top 32 C with upside so for me, he's a #1C on most teams.

 

[jonlin]

Hintz

12gp 5g 11a 16p +10 FO% 51,4 avg. 16min 7s/game. Plays PK, PP

How is this not a 1C according to most ppl here? The last 2 seasons played under a defense 1st coach. Now they are allowed to attack more.

2020-2021

41gp 15g 28a 43p +13

2021-2022

80gp 37g 35a 72p +15

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Hintz

12gp 5g 11a 16p +10 FO% 51,4 avg. 16min 7s/game. Plays PK, PP

How is this not a 1C according to most ppl here? The last 2 seasons played under a defense 1st coach. Now they are allowed to attack more.

2020-2021

41gp 15g 28a 43p +13

2021-2022

80gp 37g 35a 72p +15

Great example of what I wanted to see with this poll - value in our minds vs actual production. Thanks jonlin!

 

[jonlin]

Great example of what I wanted to see with this poll - value in our minds vs actual production. Thanks jonlin!

More like ppl dont follow Dallas games at all and dont even know the player IMO. It`s even more impressive that a player, who plays for a defensive team with 16min/gp actually is only 2p below PPG for the last 3 seasons while playing all situations. Most of the other players named, play in another system with worse stats. 80% of them dont even PK and loggs more minutes.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Maybe it would have been easier to say "Name your top 32 centers".

 

[Kcb12345]

Hintz

12gp 5g 11a 16p +10 FO% 51,4 avg. 16min 7s/game. Plays PK, PP

How is this not a 1C according to most ppl here? The last 2 seasons played under a defense 1st coach. Now they are allowed to attack more.

2020-2021

41gp 15g 28a 43p +13

2021-2022

80gp 37g 35a 72p +15

One of the better 2-way players in the game as well. Great defensively. No clue how he isn't a unanimous 1C on here. If he's not a 1C, then there aren't a lot of 1C's in the NHL.

 

[QJL]

For everyone’s enjoyment, here are the 32 1Cs.

1. Connor McDavid
2. Austin Matthews
3. Leon Draisaitl
4. Nathan MacKinnon
5. Aleksander Barkov
6. Sidney Crosby
7. Brayden Point
8. Patrice Bergeron
9. Mika Zibanejad
10. Sebastian Aho
11. Jack Eichel
12. Roope Hintz
13. Elias Lindholm
14. Evgeni Malkin
15. John Tavares
16. Elias Pettersson
17. Anze Kopitar
18. Nazem Kadri
19. Jack Hughes
20. Dylan Larkin
21. Robert Thomas
22. Mathew Barzal
23. Ryan O’Reilly
24. Mark Scheifele
25. Evgeny Kuznetsov
26. Trevor Zegras
27. Matt Duchene
28. Nick Suzuki
29. Tomas Hertl
30. Brock Nelson
31. Nico Hischier
32. Bo Horvat

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Does that make Jack Hughes not a number 1C? he doesn't fit your criteria.

If he scores moving forward at the pace he did last season he would be. He might not be a faceoff guy or elite in his own zone, but his possession and puck retrieval ability mitigates that with his scoring.

For everyone’s enjoyment, here are the 32 1Cs.

1. Connor McDavid
2. Austin Matthews
3. Leon Draisaitl
4. Nathan MacKinnon
5. Aleksander Barkov
6. Sidney Crosby
7. Brayden Point
8. Patrice Bergeron
9. Mika Zibanejad
10. Sebastian Aho
11. Jack Eichel
12. Roope Hintz
13. Elias Lindholm
14. Evgeni Malkin
15. John Tavares
16. Elias Pettersson
17. Anze Kopitar
18. Nazem Kadri
19. Jack Hughes
20. Dylan Larkin
21. Robert Thomas
22. Mathew Barzal
23. Ryan O’Reilly
24. Mark Scheifele
25. Evgeny Kuznetsov
26. Trevor Zegras
27. Matt Duchene
28. Nick Suzuki
29. Tomas Hertl
30. Brock Nelson
31. Nico Hischier
32. Bo Horvat

Hischier moves up like 10+ spots if we do this ranking as of today.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Matt Duchene is on the poll list, but he's not a center fwiw.

 

[biturbo19]

Matt Duchene is on the poll list, but he's not a center fwiw.

I mean, Duchene is a Center, and he's been a top scorer in the league there. But i think most people have settled on the idea that he's probably better as a winger, where he's less of a liability defensively.

 

[Strong Hearts]

Pettersson, Hintz, Tavares, Larkin, and Lindholm.

 

[Xirik]

Since there was talk about Selke type players earlier.

Leading Selke candidates-ESPN
Leader: Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins
Finalists: Nico Hischier, New Jersey Devils; Mark Stone, Vegas Golden Knights

Hischier was the only other players to receive multiple first-place votes. Other players that made our panelists' Selke ballots were Jordan Staal of the Carolina Hurricanes, Phillip Danault of the Los Angeles Kings and Roope Hintz of the Dallas Stars.

Seems someone is missing on that list... ehh Espn is probably biased anyway.

 

[Haatley]

How does that make logical sense? Because there are 32 teams there are 32 guys who play at the quality of a #1C?

#1 Centre is a job. It's not a qualification.

If I manage a store, even if I'm not qualified, I'm still a manager.

 

[KaosKommando]

All but seven of them are #1C QUALITY. So nine, I think is what I'm trying to say. Good poll.