Proposal: Which fan base would do this trade Matthew Knies For Jesper Wallstedt

[Seras]

Yep and Toronto always overpays for what the player is, so it’s perfect

Easily disproven, there are no bad contracts on the leafs.

Also I feel bad for fan's in general who can't see that NHL players are also human beings who also want the most money they can get doing their job.

NHL salary cap is really, really bad and has been for a very long time.

 

[Seras]

So you don't understand how contracts work with a rising cap...

Brady signed his contract after the 2020-2021 season where scored 36 points in 56 games (53pt per 82 game pace). The first year he was at $8.33M before it dropped to $8.2M. I'll use the $8.2 just for fun. $8.2M was 10.06% of the $81.5M cap ceiling that first year.

10.06% of next year's projected $95.5M ceiling is $9.61M. Knies scored at a 61 point per 82 game pace, so there's no discount for him being worse than Tkachuk currently as his pace is better than Tkachuk's was when he signed the contract. Tkachuk's extension was also 7 years. 8 years would represent a bump in cap hit for buying an extra UFA year.

Probably looking at $9.75M AAV if you think he's the next Brady Tkachuk (1st line power forward) and insist on an 8 year extension.

Not looking to argue, but Brady led his team in points that season while Knies played with 2 players who have much higher points than him

I'm in the 8x8 range tbh and I think that's roughly what he will get should they do 8 years +/-0.25m

 

[I am Canadian]

I don’t. It doesn’t matter what I think though, Toronto fans think he is a 1st line power forward. Those get paid a lot.

He objectively is a #1 power forward. There's not really any debate

 

[DigitalBoldy]

NHL salary cap is really, really bad and has been for a very long time.

Yeah, it must really suck to have to compete on an even playing field.

Not looking to argue, but Brady led his team in points that season while Knies played with 2 players who have much higher points than him

I'm in the 8x8 range tbh and I think that's roughly what he will get should they do 8 years +/-0.25m

I haven't even got to my main point, which is that Knies isn't a 1st line level forward. Knies being a 2nd line forward puts him right in line with 8x8. And before Leafs fans malfunction over that statement, I don't view Rossi as a 1st line player either. He's a 2C at best right now that just so happenes to play on the 1st line next to a superstar. Rossi outproduced Knies in both points and even strength points.

He objectively is a #1 power forward. There's not really any debate

He's the best Toronto has to fit the description and left wing role, I suppose. He's not a 1st line forward IMO.

 

[93gilmour93]

So you don't understand how contracts work with a rising cap...

Brady signed his contract after the 2020-2021 season where scored 36 points in 56 games (53pt per 82 game pace). The first year he was at $8.33M before it dropped to $8.2M. I'll use the $8.2 just for fun. $8.2M was 10.06% of the $81.5M cap ceiling that first year.

10.06% of next year's projected $95.5M ceiling is $9.61M. Knies scored at a 61 point per 82 game pace, so there's no discount for him being worse than Tkachuk currently as his pace is better than Tkachuk's was when he signed the contract. Tkachuk's extension was also 7 years. 8 years would represent a bump in cap hit for buying an extra UFA year.

Probably looking at $9.75M AAV if you think he's the next Brady Tkachuk (1st line power forward) and insist on an 8 year extension.

Great speech. So he's probably getting around 8 x 8

 

[Namikaze Minato]

He's the best Toronto has to fit the description and left wing role, I suppose. He's not a 1st line forward IMO.

So does that mean Minnesota only has 1 first line forward in Kaprizov? Or does Boldy get to be a first line player despite not playing on the first line?

 

[DigitalBoldy]

So does that mean Minnesota only has 1 first line forward in Kaprizov? Or does Boldy get to be a first line player despite not playing on the first line?

You're proving my point for why Knies isn't a 1st line forward. Player evaluations are based on production, not what line they play on. Boldy is absolutely a 1st line level forward. Knies is not (yet).

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Great speech. So he's probably getting around 8 x 8

Right in line with what young 2nd line players get on a long term deal. Thanks for playing.

 

[koyvoo]

How many first line left wingers are there in the NHL?
Knies ranks 19th in pts amongst all left wingers in the NHL this season.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Easily disproven, there are no bad contracts on the leafs.

Also I feel bad for fan's in general who can't see that NHL players are also human beings who also want the most money they can get doing their job.

NHL salary cap is really, really bad and has been for a very long time.

Sorry, I am also a Leafs fan, that is absolutely wrong.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

You're proving my point for why Knies isn't a 1st line forward. Player evaluations are based on production, not what line they play on. Boldy is absolutely a 1st line level forward. Knies is not (yet).

If Knies isnt a first line forward (I agree) why is he worth 10 million dollars in your mind?

If Boldy who scores 70+ points is a first line forward, how much is John Tavares going to be worth this summer as a Point per game first line center, when you think Knies is a 9-10 million dollar non first line winger?

Whats Rossi worth, as a better player than Knies?

If I say "Is Kaprizov going to sign in Minnesota or is the 'minnesota price' going to be too costly (I've seen some fans say 17 million!)" Does that mean that all Minny fans believe hes a 17 million dollar winger like youre pretending all leafs fans think Knies is the best first line power forward the league has ever seen?

 

[93gilmour93]

Right in line with what young 2nd line players get on a long term deal. Thanks for playing.

Or young first line players depending on where they fit in compared to the others. Thank you for letting me play

 

[SoupNazi]