Where is Rantanen?

[Kshahdoo]

1 assist in 4 games and -4.

Of course the whole Dallas team doesn't score a lot, and their scoring leader is defenseman with 3 points in 4 games. Still, Rantanen is paid to be a leader, and he isn't to put it mildly.

 

[Kcb12345]

He and the whole team need to be better offensively

Since its a team-wide issue I'm not too worried about him individually yet, but would really like to see him have a big game 5.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

He hasn’t been a play driver for a long, long time and needs somebody else to do that for him.

Hintz as his center isn’t that guy.

 

[milehigh11]

This is why he wasn't worth the contract. He is not a line driver, he got fed points by Mack and makar.

If he isn't scoring, most of the time he is invisible out there unless he is falling down from no contact

 

[Kshahdoo]

I remember people used to say he's about as good as Kaprizov. It looks like he isn't.

 

[Turbonium]

I remember people used to say he's about as good as Kaprizov. It looks like he isn't.

Completely different types of players.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

Laughing all the way to the bank

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

He'll be fine eventually but hasn't clicked with a line as yet, which isn't what Dallas need right now.

 

[Coffee]

He’s busy shutting down the Nelson line

 

[BB88]

I remember people used to say he's about as good as Kaprizov. It looks like he isn't.

I love HF where we base everything on the most short sample sizes

Probably, but you don’t look at few games and say that, and ignore all the other data

 

[BB88]

This is why he wasn't worth the contract. He is not a line driver, he got fed points by Mack and makar.

If he isn't scoring, most of the time he is invisible out there unless he is falling down from no contact

How can you say he has been invisible this series?
He’s been the opposite, he has all the chances in the world but hasn’t scored, which is what he’s paid to do but he certainly hasn’t been invisible.
He has 12 shots in 4 games with multiple grade A scoring chances

Just a game ago Avs fans were basically ready to run Necas out of the city

 

[Kshahdoo]

I love HF where we base everything on the most short sample sizes

Probably, but you don’t look at few games and say that, and ignore all the other data

Didn't he suck at the 4 Nations too?

 

[ijuka]

He hasn’t been a play driver for a long, long time and needs somebody else to do that for him.

Hintz as his center isn’t that guy.

Do you not remember how Rantanen was the #1C for the Avs when MacKinnon was injured? He didn't drive play back then?

I think that the issue more likely is that he's still sulking due to Avs trading him, as he enjoyed it there. I don't think this is about his innate qualities as a player.

 

[torniojaws]

Maybe Dallas should try him as a C at some point, if not already?

 

[BLNY]

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

I think that the issue more likely is that he's still sulking due to Avs trading him, as he enjoyed it there. I don't think this is about his innate qualities as a player.

I can imagine this has something to do with it. Is there another example of 100p scorer who was traded from his first NHL team after 10 years mid season without his knowledge?

There aren't many players who play with one team for ten years to begin with but to have that connection being ripped from you without your knowledge within a short amount of time must be a tough situation.

In addition to losing your teammates I would guess it has an impact on self esteem too when you thought you were important to your franchise. Almost must feel like a betrayal.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I can imagine this has something to do with it. Is there another example of 100p scorer who was traded from his first NHL team after 10 years mid season without his knowledge?

There aren't many players who play with one team for ten years to begin with but to have that connection being ripped from you without your knowledge within a short amount of time must be a tough situation.

In addition to losing your teammates I would guess it has an impact on self esteem too when you thought you were important to your franchise. Almost must feel like a betrayal.

Yeah. And it's going to be a long fall from Mt. Olympus for Marner if the Leafs are wise enough to let him walk.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Good pivot man

 

[TrKB PAM]

I can imagine this has something to do with it. Is there another example of 100p scorer who was traded from his first NHL team after 10 years mid season without his knowledge?

There aren't many players who play with one team for ten years to begin with but to have that connection being ripped from you without your knowledge within a short amount of time must be a tough situation.

In addition to losing your teammates I would guess it has an impact on self esteem too when you thought you were important to your franchise. Almost must feel like a betrayal.

He signed a $100 million dollar contract to play for Dallas. No excuses if he doesn't perform.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I can imagine this has something to do with it. Is there another example of 100p scorer who was traded from his first NHL team after 10 years mid season without his knowledge?

There aren't many players who play with one team for ten years to begin with but to have that connection being ripped from you without your knowledge within a short amount of time must be a tough situation.

In addition to losing your teammates I would guess it has an impact on self esteem too when you thought you were important to your franchise. Almost must feel like a betrayal.

I've heard Colorado had problems with resigning him, though.

Yes, I know Rantanen denied it, and I didn't follow the situation closely, but I remember I looked into the thread about the player a couple times on Colorado board, and fans were concerned about the situation.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I remember people used to say he's about as good as Kaprizov. It looks like he isn't.

Kyle Connor is more of a play driver than him.

 

[Eltuna]

I can imagine this has something to do with it. Is there another example of 100p scorer who was traded from his first NHL team after 10 years mid season without his knowledge?

There aren't many players who play with one team for ten years to begin with but to have that connection being ripped from you without your knowledge within a short amount of time must be a tough situation.

In addition to losing your teammates I would guess it has an impact on self esteem too when you thought you were important to your franchise. Almost must feel like a betrayal.

Not mid season but it’s very similar to the Huberdeau trade where the player was blindsided.

I’ve had the opinion that the Avs should trade Rantanen for a little bit now, huge point producers that aren’t their line drivers like Rants or Huberdeau are usually the kinds of players whose mega contracts turn out poorly.

I think the Oilers should do the same thing with Bouchard this summer. Takes a lot of guts to trade these guys but can work out so long as you correctly identify those players whose point totals are inflated due to their situation.

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

He signed a $100 million dollar contract to play for Dallas. No excuses if he doesn't perform.

Ofcourse you are right. But it doesn't mean those things dont have an effect on the situation.

 

[landstuhltaylor]

Do you not remember how Rantanen was the #1C for the Avs when MacKinnon was injured? He didn't drive play back then?

I think that the issue more likely is that he's still sulking due to Avs trading him, as he enjoyed it there. I don't think this is about his innate qualities as a player.

Again that was a long time ago.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Laughing all the way to the bank

This, but I think he's better than this, Mack's numbers were much improved with him vice not with him, it's not like he's shit lol