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Where is Rantanen? Who is Rantanen? Why is Rantanen? What is Rantanen?

Yeah, he's not that guy. He's an elite finisher but not somebody you want as the guy.
We could say that about the Carolina Hurricanes as well, where you don't want Aho as the guy.

However, let's remember that these still are the teams that finished #3 and #4. Many other teams with a more suitable the guy performed significantly worse.
 
Everyone lacks high end talent against Edmonton...those two are literally the best active playoff performers. Do you think they will maybe sign Mario Lemieux in the offseason or what is your point?
I'm not insulting anyone here, i'm only stating the facts. Sid/Malkin duo won 3 cups, why are you so surprised by these turn of events?
 
I'm not insulting anyone here, i'm only stating the facts. Sid/Malkin duo won 3 cups, why are you so surprised by these turn of events?

Saying Stars don't have someone to match #1 and #2 playoff performers is pointless. It's a lowkey way of saying Rantanen wasn't good enough even though he basically carried Stars to WFC. The real problem is the underperfroming of basically everyone else but Rants, Harley and Oettinger. When that is the problem you don't try to downplay their best player.
 
Maybe watch the games.

According to advanced stats for the whole playoff run Rantanen leads Dallas in high danger scoring chances (iHDCF), all scoring chances (iSCF), shots on goal and points in 5v5 and all strengths.

5v5.

High danger scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 24​

All scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 42​

Shots
1# Rantanen - 31​

Points
1# Rantanen - 13p​


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All strengths:

High danger scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 29​

All scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 60​

Shots
1# Rantanen - 50​

Points
1# Rantanen - 22p​
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Maybe, just maybe there's a possibility that Rantanen's low scoring at the end of the playoffs has to do with the fact the team wasn't playing well. They were losing puck battles, lack of depth scoring, ridiculous dump and chase style of play which doesn't work, clear lack of leadership which is reflected in case Hintz and the way people are underpefroming.

But Rantanen's "bust" wasn't the problem as he still was the best player in the team.
All that and nothing to show for it.
 
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We could say that about the Carolina Hurricanes as well, where you don't want Aho as the guy.

However, let's remember that these still are the teams that finished #3 and #4. Many other teams with a more suitable the guy performed significantly worse.
Well, it is a team game. Even if you have "the" guy or guys, if the supporting cast/goaltending isn't there then you won't go far. Who goes far is as much about talent as it is timing and luck.
 
Saying Stars don't have someone to match #1 and #2 playoff performers is pointless. It's a lowkey way of saying Rantanen wasn't good enough even though he basically carried Stars to WFC. The real problem is the underperfroming of basically everyone else but Rants, Harley and Oettinger. When that is the problem you don't try to downplay their best player.
Yes, he isn't good enough to beat McDrai alone. Is that some kind of a secret? You don't win with just one guy, you need multiple guys, like EDM has.
 
Leads the second best in scoring by 36%. Scored 17% of his teams points. Carried his team to EFC. You have a short memory.

Same with good players but plebs forget the good stuff they did if they have one or two bad games.
Dude just hang a banner. Rantanen pulled his weight and more, the Dallas Stars did not.
 
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Maybe watch the games.

According to advanced stats for the whole playoff run Rantanen leads Dallas in high danger scoring chances (iHDCF), all scoring chances (iSCF), shots on goal and points in 5v5 and all strengths.

5v5.

High danger scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 24​

All scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 42​

Shots
1# Rantanen - 31​

Points
1# Rantanen - 13p​


View attachment 1044093

All strengths:

High danger scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 29​

All scoring chances
1# Rantanen - 60​

Shots
1# Rantanen - 50​

Points
1# Rantanen - 22p​
View attachment 1044095
Maybe, just maybe there's a possibility that Rantanen's low scoring at the end of the playoffs has to do with the fact the team wasn't playing well. They were losing puck battles, lack of depth scoring, ridiculous dump and chase style of play which doesn't work, clear lack of leadership which is reflected in case Hintz and the way people are underpefroming.

But Rantanen's "bust" wasn't the problem as he still was the best player in the team.
Cool story. I too would be happy with my 12 million dollar pickup scoring 1 goal in his last ten games when the offense is struggling because everyone knows it’s not who has the most goals but the most high danger chances that win the games.
 
Bus rider who has had most points out of Avs forwards in last three playoffs before this spring. Your saltiness is embarrassing and reeks of bitter mentality.

Bus rider who has 1,2ppg, is leading his team in shots, high danger scoring chances and points. Who has over 40% more points than the second best scorer of Dallas. He scored almost one fifth of Stars points.

He really did a number on you by droppong your team didnt he?
lol. Your attempts to insult the Avs do nothing. Pretty much everyone on our board knows that we are screwed while CMac and Bednar are in charge. We've made peace with it. At least we got a cup though, how bout you?

Your numbers on Mikko are meaningless as well. That dude has elite skills no doubt, but his motivation to use them is lacking to say the least. And when you have elite players, it's cup or bust!

You enjoy that contract though. Let that 1.2 ppg keep your spirits up.
 
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Oilers rarely let Rantanen move the puck off the boards, especially as he tried to work out of the offensive corner. They basically jammed him before he could move into open ice and be dangerous. Rantanen and/or DeBoer didn't adapt to that strategy. Instead, they focused on line matches, but it didn't matter much because everyone on the Oilers followed the same defensive strategy.
 
lol. Your attempts to insult the Avs do nothing. Pretty much everyone on our board knows that we are screwed while CMac and Bednar are in charge. We've made peace with it. At least we got a cup though, how bout you?

Your numbers on Mikko are meaningless as well. That dude has elite skills no doubt, but his motivation to use them is lacking to say the least. And when you have elite players, it's cup or bust!

You enjoy that contract though! Let that 1.2 ppg keep your spirits up.
lt's funny you won't criticize Sakic. All the staff instead.
 
I have no idea what is going on here. Rantanen never wanted to traded. He loved to play with Mackinnon and Colorado. First he got traded to Carolina and Colorado did not even make sure that he will sing there.

After that he wanted out of Carolina because he was going to be UFA so he basically helped Carolina by saying that he is not going to stay before trade deadline. He was playing like shit at the time... (no shit after trading).

So he actually chose Dallas and after trade Carolina and Colorado fans was attacking on him like he was doing something wrong. What did he do wrong?

So then he had first game back at Colorado and people Booed him. Again what the f*** he did wrong again? Wtf.

Even after kicking Colorado out and made hat trick against Winnipeg he is again clown here?

Rantanen is not worth 12m but Pettersson is worth of 11.6m?

Mackinnon couldn't handle even Denmark without Rantanen. Even Crosby tried to help him 🥱
 
He had a hot spurt and got incredibly overrated.

He's a very good player but I can see why Colorado moved on.
Nah...Avs would have been in the WCF final if they had Rants. Foolish to move on, especially with info coming out since the trade that he was willing to accept a pretty reasonable contract (akin to what he signed for in Dallas) to stay. With Landy coming back and looking remarkably good they could have reunited the 9296 line, too, one of the greatest and most dominant lines in Avs' history.
 
Nah...Avs would have been in the WCF final if they had Rants. Foolish to move on, especially with info coming out since the trade that he was willing to accept a pretty reasonable contract (akin to what he signed for in Dallas) to stay. With Landy coming back and looking remarkably good they could have reunited the 9296 line, too, one of the greatest and most dominant lines in Avs' history.

Honest question, would Gabriel Landeskog have been ready enough from his recovery to play on a line with Nathan MacKinnon and Mikko Rantanen?
 
Honest question, would Gabriel Landeskog have been ready enough from his recovery to play on a line with Nathan MacKinnon and Mikko Rantanen?
The Avs were running him on the second line with Nelson just a few games after his return. It was kind of insane how quickly he got it all back together. In game 6 he was on line #2 for example, on powerplay #1, and had two assists.
 
I am really curious if he gets another 100 point season next year? Off season to decompress.. relax.. hit the gym etc. Training camp with new teammates.
 
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