Where is Marner Signing

[Golden_Jet]

• In Canada, both federal and provincial taxes are applied. In Ontario, players face some of the highest tax rates in the league. After taxes, the same $4 million contract could leave a player with around $2.0 million in take-home

Not quite true. You are assuming a player plays all 82 games at home.
41 away games are taxed at the state/province the game is played in.

 

[ViD]

Why in the world would he sign in Chicago or San Jose?

Even with him they’re far away from being a contender.

 

[landy]

Yeah, he doesn't really have a whole lot of options for teams without State Income Tax unless Vegas does Vegas things. But there's still teams like Detroit/Chicago/Columbus/Carolina/Utah that have the cap space and have significantly lower taxes.

I don't think he gets any less than $13M. Mikko got $12.5M and that was not on the open UFA market, and was in a tax free state. Yes, you can argue all day that Mikko shows up when it matters, but that's more of a fan argument than one between NHL agents and GMs who are negotiating. If a GM says that, the agent goes "OK, we'll go to the next guy."

Mikko got $12, but yes I agree with you. Classic does he want to win or get paid the most? Buffalo will give him $14-15 to go there im sure.

 

[landy]

Why in the world would he sign in Chicago or San Jose?

Even with him they’re far away from being a contender.

Its a job for a lot of these guys still and a bonus if they win.

 

[Static]

I want it to be Anaheim, but I suspect Utah will be more financially aggressive and perhaps more attractive.

I don't think marner is going to a team with no chance at the playoffs.

 

[ViD]

Its a job for a lot of these guys still and a bonus if they win.

There are other more competitive teams that can offer him great terms

 

[ItWasJustified]

Wherever he gets most money.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Anaheim, kings or Utah

 

[Mr Positive]

He might go west just to get further away from Toronto

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Mikko got $12, but yes I agree with you. Classic does he want to win or get paid the most? Buffalo will give him $14-15 to go there im sure.

Buffalo would have to make some kind of move to make that happen, or they're losing multiple RFAs.

My bad on Mikko. For some reason I thought he was $12.5M.

 

[landy]

Buffalo would have to make some kind of move to make that happen, or they're losing multiple RFAs.

My bad on Mikko. For some reason I thought he was $12.5M.

Im assuming theyre losing Byram and Peterka. Both have been rumored to already ask out or hint at bridge deals then leaving.

 

[jetsforever]

Dubas will give him another crazy contract in Pittsburgh

 

[landy]

There are other more competitive teams that can offer him great terms

Right. Im more saying winning isnt everything for guys with families. A comfortable place to live may trump that.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

closest proximity to home would be detroit right? see it making some sense.

 

[JaegerDice]

Mitch Marner signing in Carolina for less than the 13.5 million the Leafs offered him, after refusing to waive his NTC for the Rantanen trade is the only outcome the hockey gods could responsibly allow.

 

[Golden_Jet]

closest proximity to home would be detroit right? see it making some sense.

Closest to home would be Buffalo.

 

[hohosaregood]

He's obviously KHL bound. He's persona non grata in North America

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Dubas will give him another crazy contract in Pittsburgh

Again, I'm not seeing why Mitch is going from choking in the playoffs to not making them at all.

 

[M88K]

He's going to Chicago or Minnesota of course. the Central isn't a bad enough gauntlet, the mediocre teams need to throw their hat in the mix.

 

[Zarzh]

I think his playoff performance will scare Carolina away for good. It’s basement or bust for Mitch and his dad now.

Mitch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehlers in the playoffs. Mitch's worst series would be Nikolaj's best.

 

[syz]

Vegas.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Mitch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ehlers in the playoffs. Mitch's worst series would be Nikolaj's best.

I was gonna present the question of "What about Ehlers plus the $4M - $5M cap difference?" and then looked up his playoff performances.

Holy f*** it's bad...

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Yeah, he doesn't really have a whole lot of options for teams without State Income Tax unless Vegas does Vegas things. But there's still teams like Detroit/Chicago/Columbus/Carolina/Utah that have the cap space and have significantly lower taxes.

I don't think he gets any less than $13M. Mikko got $12.5M and that was not on the open UFA market, and was in a tax free state. Yes, you can argue all day that Mikko shows up when it matters, but that's more of a fan argument than one between NHL agents and GMs who are negotiating. If a GM says that, the agent goes "OK, we'll go to the next guy."

Agree with this. UFA compensation is less about "fairness" and comparables and more about who is desperate and willing to make a potentially bad mistake. All it takes is one GM to be on the hotseat or shortsighted and you end up with a terrible contract. Add in that with the cap going up (and projected to go up significantly over the next 3 years) you have more teams with $'s available so contracts are likely to be especially crazy this summer.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Agree with this. UFA compensation is less about "fairness" and comparables and more about who is desperate and willing to make a potentially bad mistake. All it takes is one GM to be on the hotseat or shortsighted and you end up with a terrible contract. Add in that with the cap going up (and projected to go up significantly over the next 3 years) you have more teams with $'s available so contracts are likely to be especially crazy this summer.

This is another thing people don't realize. Not only do you have a massive cap increase, but you have GMs armed with the knowledge of massive cap increases over the following two seasons.

We've never had that kind of certainty. We've never known for sure where the cap will be in three years.

Agents are gonna go into July 1st saying "Why would my client sign a 7 year deal worth today's market value, when the cap is going to be almost 20% higher in two years?"

 

[PamBallam]

Again, I'm not seeing why Mitch is going from choking in the playoffs to not making them at all.

You can't be crucified by the media for being a ghost in the playoffs if you never make them. Maybe he just wants a no pressure gig, with a baby soft media that isn't gonna kill him. Plus he gets to play with his buddy, Sid.