Where did Yzerman go wrong with the rebuild?

[wingsfannn919191]

That's my biggest thing with him as well, he doesn't play with an edge. What pisses him off I wonder.

Guess you missed out how he hulks out when smurfs get in his vision

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

That's my biggest thing with him as well, he doesn't play with an edge. What pisses him off I wonder.

Apparently the only thing that does is getting run into by a tiny player as he's scoring an empty net goal.

And even then the anger is over in a flash.

 

[Dotter]

Lalonde yes was assistant coach, but he was coaching. Biggest difference is he is the guy making the end decision now. I highly doubt he drastically changed his views from then to now, other than having a for obvious reasons worse material to work with.

So lets see if the gain that click over the next months. We have no need to be in a hurry. Worst case we get a better draft pick and achieve the same.

Might as well start putting feelers out and begin the selling process. Laldone's coaching isn't turning this team around. Either fire coaching or start looking at drafting in the 8-15 range.

I will say Perron will have a job in the NHL after he retires as a player. I think his leadership is something special.

 

[schuelma24]

or start looking at drafting in the 8-15 range.

I feel like that might be...understating how bad this team is trending. If goaltending and PP comes back to earth and we sell at the deadline, I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see them end up in the 5-7 range (and maybe have a shot at Misa, Frondell, or McQueen).

 

[Dotter]

I feel like that might be...understating how bad this team is trending. If goaltending and PP comes back to earth and we sell at the deadline, I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see them end up in the 5-7 range (and maybe have a shot at Misa, Frondell, or McQueen).

It's possible. But you can't count out the other suckage teams around the NHL from harder suckage.

 

[SirKillalot]

I will say Perron will have a job in the NHL after he retires as a player. I think his leadership is something special.

I think he will as well, in what capacity waits to be seen.

 

[odin1981]

Drastic implies to improve this year. You talk about long term deal, which to me isn't drastic.
Question is who are you giving up for what?

What makes you think Lalonde is doing something drastically different than in Tampa?
He was coaching there as well even if he didn't have the main responsibility. This fire the coach agenda right away when things goes a little worse than planned is a bad habit from fans.

Even when we were improving every year people been bitching about Lalonde without any point of view with reality.

They are not liabilities. A little overpaid, especially Veleno.

Raz been getting more and more praise before this season by management and also fans.
Should never been drafted 9th overall though.
We could expect a little more scoring of them, but overall idk they do alright.

Does anyone between Edm and Detroit fan bases actually feel Tyler Wright has done a good job? His two top 10 picks with us look very pedestrian so far.

 

[norrisnick]

Does anyone between Edm and Detroit fan bases actually feel Tyler Wright has done a good job? His two top 10 picks with us look very pedestrian so far.

Two?

 

[ricky0034]

Apparently, that's almost everything our pro scouts do.. look for birthplace/college in Michigan..

I wonder how long till Chris Ilitch realizes how much money he can save by just getting rid of them and using ChatGPT to do that instead

 

[ricky0034]

Two?

you forget Zadina ever existed already or something?

i'll admit to being a little jealous if so

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Tyler wright lol amazing he ever got hired ... apparently he hit the table hard demanding we take tuomisto, no one should listen to a word he has to say

 

[odin1981]

Two?

The most recent organizations that he was head of scouting for. I know he worked in some capacity of scouting for Columbus.

 

[norrisnick]

you forget Zadina ever existed already or something?

i'll admit to being a little jealous if so

He's no longer with us. Wright oversaw three top 10 picks with the Wings. Ras, Zadina, and Mo.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

He's no longer with us. Wright oversaw three top 10 picks with the Wings. Ras, Zadina, and Mo.

I thought yzerman was the one who wanted seider

 

[norrisnick]

I thought yzerman was the one who wanted seider

He was. That doesn't magically make Wright not the Director of Scouting at the time.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

He was. That doesn't magically make Wright not the Director of Scouting at the time.

But it means I can give him zero credit for us picking seider

 

[norrisnick]

But it means I can give him zero credit for us picking seider

That's cool.

But when a different poster makes the statement, "His two top 10 picks with us look very pedestrian so far." It's important to clarify what that is referring to. He was involved with three top 10 picks in Detroit and only two are still with us. Seider is anything but pedestrian.

 

[Finnen]

This:

1C: Copp
2C: Larkin
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Or this:

1C: Barzal
2C: Copp
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Relevant centers.

What everybody think?

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

This:

1C: Copp
2C: Larkin
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Or this:

1C: Barzal
2C: Copp
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Relevant centers.

What everybody think?

i’m thinking i’m very confused

 

[wingsfannn919191]

That's cool.

But when a different poster makes the statement, "His two top 10 picks with us look very pedestrian so far." It's important to clarify what that is referring to. He was involved with three top 10 picks in Detroit and only two are still with us. Seider is anything but pedestrian.

Maybe he meant zadina and didnt think wright was here ? Only thing that makes sense... he probably phrased it wrong... or hes an idiot lol

 

[Finnen]

i’m thinking i’m very confused

Mentality on what manner?

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

If the Red Wings lose to the Sharks tomorrow and get outplayed/outhustled again and Lalonde isn't fired, Yzerman is not a serious GM.

It would be an insult to the fans to be expected to continue to pay for this garbage and be asked to continue to show blind patience.

 

[KJoe88]

Copp is fine, but Chiarot actively makes his partner and team worse every time he steps on the ice


My point is there isn't a contention window

Your evaluation of Chiarot is absurd.

 

[KJoe88]

This:

1C: Copp
2C: Larkin
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Or this:

1C: Barzal
2C: Copp
3C: Kasper
4C: Motte/Veleno

Relevant centers.

What everybody think?

Barzal is one of the overrated players in the league.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

If the Red Wings lose to the Sharks tomorrow and get outplayed/outhustled again and Lalonde isn't fired, Yzerman is not a serious GM.

It would be an insult to the fans to be expected to continue to pay for this garbage and be asked to continue to show blind patience.

Or he realizes this team is garbage and might as well embrace the schmanking and add another big piece