When will Bouchard be considered elite?

[theMajor]

This guy scores a lot, but when I watch him play I don’t think he’s actually very good.

I know that doesn’t really make sense but whatever.

it makes perfect sense , reminds me of EK65 back in the days

 

[Mogo]

Forsling has been so invisible you couldn't even tell if he was playing, incredible how Cats fans claimed that this guy was better than Heiskanen

Nobody said he's better than Heiskanen. Defensivly maybe.
Are you the same guy who said Bouchard is 10x better than Forsling?
You must be new to hockey. Understandable

 

[Muffin]

Reminds me of a bigger Tyson Barrie with a better shot IMO.

 

[Mogo]

Reminds me of a bigger Tyson Barrie with a better shot IMO.

ding ding ding

 

[Team_Spirit]

That arm lock tapout was embarrassing.
I think the whole team is thinking of a tapout now.

It's over

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800359579471036590

 

[elmaco]

It's over

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800359579471036590

Accurate representation of the whole final series thus far.

 

[JPeeper]

In two years when Pissy and McDork are gone and Bouchard is making $10 mil all by his lonesome, oh boy. Gonna make the Nurse contract look like a bargain.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

In two years when Pissy and McDork are gone and Bouchard is making $10 mil all by his lonesome, oh boy. Gonna make the Nurse contract look like a bargain.

Can you put this in a sentence.

 

[behemolari]

excellent question when, also why

 

[MCR74]

How about never?

 

[rynryn]

it doesn't matter what anyone else says. if you want to believe he's elite then don't let reality ruin your fun.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

 

[JP Mick]

LOL. Maybe if the others had googly eyes. I heard it was actually 31 out of 32 teams.

I mean, Mike C said it. Except instead of "seem invisible", in the context of his post, he actually means "they are invisible".

Speaking of which, why are you bringing up Forsling in a Bouchard thread? Feeling insecure about how little he's impressed?

No he’s amazing. Enjoy your Stanley Cup.

 

[Mattb124]

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He reminds me of Olaf from Frozen.

Bouchard is good but definitely not elite and I am not seeing the tools to get him there. He has good instincts and a great shot, but his success is too much a product of the players around him.

 

[Perfect Human]

He will be with when he can truly choke out another player in seconds. Needs some more MMA training to be “elite”

 

[ZJuice]

He will be with when he can truly choke out another player in seconds. Needs some more MMA training to be “elite”

It wouldn't hurt anybody to learn a bit of mma! it would give someone a way out when big hairy men choke them from behind

 

[HugginThePost]

Bro gonna get paid this summer

8 million?

Do you think he's taking less than Nurse??!?!

Not a chance in hell!

He'll want over $10mm and get it somewhere.

Teams love D-Men that rack up points!

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Do you think he's taking less than Nurse??!?!

Not a chance in hell!

He'll want over $10mm and get it somewhere.

Teams love D-Men that rack up points!

Luckily he's an RFA and hopefully you understand how that works.

"somewhere" doesn't really matter here

 

[MPGA]

Forsling has been so invisible you couldn't even tell if he was playing, incredible how Cats fans claimed that this guy was better than Heiskanen

Weren’t you crapping on our 3rd line? Why did Derpchard let Lundell walk him on the 3rd goal? Is he stupid?

 

[nturn06]

I've only seen the highlight since I couldn't watch the game, but where the hell were his teammates?

And the refs? But we know what a joke officiating is.

In a scrum....Players engaged in a scrum don't usually have the time to look around the ice to see what happens.

 

[Intangir]

Luckily he's an RFA and hopefully you understand how that works.

"somewhere" doesn't really matter here

Erik Karlsson signed a 7-year deal for 10.11% of the cap (would be $8.89M or so today) as an RFA back in 2012 when he had 4 years left untill UFA status.

Bouchard only has 3 years left untill UFA, alongside a longer history of production in the playoffs and in the regular season.

Now, we could argue a higher personal impact as evidenced by a Norris trophy win in 2012, much weaker linemates, and a lower-scoring era in Karlsson's favor. We wouldn't be wrong.

But on pure numbers Bouchard definitely has an argument to be paid a higher percentage of the cap on his next contract if he signs long-term than Karlsson received in '12.

All of which to say that if the Oilers end up paying less than $9M on a long-term contract with Bouchard I personally think they will have done well.

 

[Sunan]

I would want to see Bouch bomb play with a different defenseman for a few weeks before paying huge dineros

 

[Dr Pepper]

Nobody said he's better than Heiskanen. Defensivly maybe.
Are you the same guy who said Bouchard is 10x better than Forsling?
You must be new to hockey. Understandable

.....What?

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Erik Karlsson signed a 7-year deal for 10.11% of the cap (would be $8.89M or so today) as an RFA back in 2012 when he had 4 years left untill UFA status.

Bouchard only has 3 years left untill UFA, alongside a longer history of production in the playoffs and in the regular season.

Now, we could argue a higher personal impact as evidenced by a Norris trophy win in 2012, much weaker linemates, and a lower-scoring era in Karlsson's favor. We wouldn't be wrong.

But on pure numbers Bouchard definitely has an argument to be paid a higher percentage of the cap on his next contract if he signs long-term than Karlsson received in '12.

All of which to say that if the Oilers end up paying less than $9M on a long-term contract with Bouchard I personally think they will have done well.

I do think Bouchard gets 9/10.5

I don't think he deserves it. I wouldn't pay, but that's what I think he gets

 

[ChaoticOrange]

In a scrum....Players engaged in a scrum don't usually have the time to look around the ice to see what happens.

Classic Panthers to throw on the choke hold when his back is turned though. Something in their players minds snap when they see the back of a jersey.

Gutless and cowardly from Ekblad.