When does the Yzerplan start getting criticized?

[norrisnick]

He’s not getting the team to the cup, but would have been a massive help on getting the team to the playoffs.

Even if they didn’t want him, they’d have an extra 1st +2nd if Yzerman didn’t absolutely butcher this

One of the main reasons he was moved was specifically the exact opposite of the bolded above. He was a healthy scratch down the stretch run last season...

 

[Bank Shot]

Its crazy that his 3rd 1st round pick with the Red Wings hasn't even played a complete season, none of his draft picks have reached their prime and ya'll are calling the entire rebuild a failure.

The average age of his draft picks are 21 and half of his picks are younger than that.

Building through the draft isn't a 3 or 4 year process.

And with all of this said, his team has still gotten better every year.

The Red Wings are on pace to finish with less points than last year.

Looks to me like they have kinda plateaued the last three seaons.

 

[SirloinUB]

The Red Wings are on pace to finish with less points than last year.

Looks to me like they have kinda plateaued the last three seaons.

Yzerman took over in 2019.

• 19-20: 39 points .275 p%
• 20-21: 48 points .429 p%
• 21-22: 74 points .451 p%
• 22-23: 80 points .488 p%
• 23-24: 91 points .555 p%
• 24-25: 66 points .528 p%

That looks like 1 season of plateauing and 4 seasons of improvement. On top of this, rebuilding isn't a linear process. It is normal to see setbacks along this kind of journey.

So we're criticizing his work during a season where he is on pace to win 3-4 less games compared to last year despite improving every single season prior. And this is all within the context that his 3rd 1st rounder (Edvinsson) hasn't even played a complete season yet.

On the flip side, he's locked up 3 foundational pieces in Larkin. Seider & Raymond and could have another on the way in Edvinsson, one of the best/deepest prospect pools in the league and an abundance of cap space to continue improving.

 

[nbwingsfan]

One of the main reasons he was moved was specifically the exact opposite of the bolded above. He was a healthy scratch down the stretch run last season...

Which is another baffling decision by Yzerman and Lalonde.

You can’t possibly with a straight face try and say Walman is worse than Holl/Gus/Petry

 

[norrisnick]

Which is another baffling decision by Yzerman and Lalonde.

You can’t possibly with a straight face try and say Walman is worse than Holl/Gus/Petry

Worse at what? Hockey? Probably not, no. Being a contributing member of a cohesive team?

 

[RedHawkDown]

Worse at what? Hockey? Probably not, no. Being a contributing member of a cohesive team?

Is the cohesive team in the room with us right now ?

 

[NVious]

Yzerman took over in 2019.

• 19-20: 39 points .275 p%
• 20-21: 48 points .429 p%
• 21-22: 74 points .451 p%
• 22-23: 80 points .488 p%
• 23-24: 91 points .555 p%
• 24-25: 66 points .528 p%

That looks like 1 season of plateauing and 4 seasons of improvement. On top of this, rebuilding isn't a linear process. It is normal to see setbacks along this kind of journey.

So we're criticizing his work during a season where he is on pace to win 3-4 less games compared to last year despite improving every single season prior. And this is all within the context that his 3rd 1st rounder (Edvinsson) hasn't even played a complete season yet.

On the flip side, he's locked up 3 foundational pieces in Larkin. Seider & Raymond and could have another on the way in Edvinsson, one of the best/deepest prospect pools in the league and an abundance of cap space to continue improving.

So many people forget that rebuilding is more about the friends you make along the way and most importantly having fun, they think it's all about playoffs/cups and other Samsaristic vices.