canuckslover10
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Edvinsson was so terrible in game 1 of this season. Worst player on the ice.
Yzerman is overrated as GM. Similar how HFboard hyped the hell out of Chyka when he was Coyotes GM only for them to never make playoffs except the covid year when they got swept. This board always gets excited for teams with full of young players who are still raw with no real veteran leadership to show them the ropes. You need good trades, good players not just drafting high potential players.Yzerplan sucks
Well Oilers have been lucky 4 times drafting 1st overalls and drafted the 2 best players in the world plus Bouchard, Hopkins etc. They havent won anything after a decade and still have weaknesses. As i said, you need more than good drafting to win a cup. You need good trades, good developement program, good coaches and assistants. Does Detroit have all of that after 5 years of Yzerman? I dont think they have.There was a fantasy that Yzerman could routinely pick out the next Brayden Point or Nikita Kucherov in the late rounds and build a contender quickly. Also he inherited Stamkos and Hedman and he had nothing in Detroit other than Larkin to build around, who's not on their level.
He's done an ok job, but has the team in no man's land it looks like, trying to save his job with veteran signings. He has Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko in key top 6 roles right now for example. The contracts they signed are fine, but how does this team contend any time soon with a situation like that?
Arguably the Sharks are in better spot right now going forward and there's been few GMs maligned as much as Grier on these boards. Just need to get lucky in the lottery really if you want to be a contender, the scouting is so good these days impact youngsters go early and Detroit had poor lottery luck.
This would make sense if the team was actually full of young players. All we have is shitty veteran leadership and only 2 young players. Everyone else is buried in the minors.Yzerman is overrated as GM. Similar how HFboard hyped the hell out of Chyka when he was Coyotes GM only for them to never make playoffs except the covid year when they got swept. This board always gets excited for teams with full of young players who are still raw with no real veteran leadership to show them the ropes. You need good trades, good players not just drafting high potential players.
Well thats also another problem. Not sure what Yzerman is doing. I feel like Canucks being built by crappy management still managed to ger ahead of Detroit when it comes to development if you compare the timeline of when they actuallyThis would make sense if the team was actually full of young players. All we have is shitty veteran leadership and only 2 young players. Everyone else is buried in the minors.
Who knows what their ultimate upside will be, but Kasper looked fantastic in preseason and the fanbase's biggest problem with Yzerman right now is that Kasper isn't on the NHL roster.I'm also not a huge fan of the Kasper/Danielson picks for them. Both will end up good NHLers, but thought it would have been smarter for them to take swings at guys with higher upside, given their terrible lottery luck (which isn't Yzerman's fault) didn't gift them any elite talent.
Canucks core is basically from 2014-2018, with Miller as a veteran piece from 2011.Well thats also another problem. Not sure what Yzerman is doing. I feel like Canucks being built by crappy management still managed to ger ahead of Detroit when it comes to development if you compare the timeline of when they actually
started rebuilding. Detroit still doesnt have their franchise goalie and an elite center or 2. Canucks had Markstrom and Demko before giving Markstrom up. Not to mention Hughes, Norris winner and 2 elite 100 point centers. Not sure what Detroit has outside of Larkin, Raymond and Seider in NHL plus some high potential prospects in Edvinsson etc.
Agree with all of this.
Giving SY the benefit of the doubt - the deals to Kane & Tarasenko are only 1/2 years deals respectively. There are a couple marginal longer term deals (Compher, Copp), but those guys are decent roster filler.
Right now - the Wings have 4 proven "core" players on the roster - Larkin, Debrincat, Raymond, & Seider. I know that SY was starting from scratch - but after 5 years I think it's fair to say that you'd hope for more than that. The Wings are going to make it or break it on the next generation of prospects ability to step up and contribute. The huge challenge is the scope of what is needed. Looking forward to seeing how this shakes out.
maybe by 1 year. could have did 1 more yr of tanking instead of signing copp n co. that said they got a great player in kasper that draft.He jumped the gun on mediocre free agent signings instead of continuing to build through the draft.