WJC: Whats wrong with Canada?

[OilersFanatics505]

For once we can’t blame the goalies. They did their job.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Rangers originally draft Hage but he never signed. They traded his rights to Barrie I believe.

The confusion is because you said Rangers camp, so most assumed New York, not Kitchener.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Canada had zero players among the top 30 scoring leaders (goals and assists) in this WJC tournament.

Sweden have 9, USA:7: Czechia:7.

Surprisingly. Would have expected at least one player stepped up.

IIHF - Statistics 2025 IIHF WORLD JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP

well we left our goal scorers at home, so its not surprising at all.

 

[bobber]

So what, has he won the Stanley cup every year since he started playing in the NHL?

Who hasn't ?

 

[Statsy]

Saw this report from the Associated Press;

Hockey Canada executive Scott Salmond says "the buck stops" with him.

The country's men's under-20 team was eliminated from the world junior hockey championship in the quarterfinals for a second straight year Thursday.

Salmond, the program's senior vice-president of high performance and hockey operations, added he's "incredibly disappointed" and "apologetic" after Canada lost 4-3 to Czechia.

It’s all just so damn frustrating!

 

[surixon]

Too much of a lunch bucket mentality and those players couldn't stay out of the box.

The team was also very short on dynamic talent. We had one high end skill guy in McKenna and a bunch of solid but not spectacular forwards. You need more pure talent to be able to take over games.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

They left too many good players off the roster.

They can twist it all they want but this was called as soon as the roster was announced. No, it was not "hindsight" as Bob tried suggesting on TSN. A majority of fans were saying it instantly.

Let's assume the roster selections were fine. What kind of coaching was that? Cameron misused his players and didn't even get the best out of the assets he had.

Just bad across the board.

They need to start picking the best players and choose a better coach. Look for coaches that can handle stars and know how to get them to buy in. That's a lot smarter than bringing in lower quality players.

 

[Duffy13]

We cannot address the fact we are going to take a shit ton of penalties, so instead of taking the best over all players, we are going to load up on defensively responsible and PK reliant players, to help mitigate the steady parade of penalties we are planning on taking.

There will be no further comments, or practices to work on not taking penalties or defending on the PK, definitely NO working on offensive philosophical ideas or strategies, because the best defense is a team that doesn't control the puck but gets hit by it over and over.

I will now pass these gall stones through my nasal passage to show how committed I am to distract anyone from the fact myself and the roster selection committee is out of our minds.

Thank you, and see you next year, guaranteed, wink wink nudge nudge off to the bar we go.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

You can talk about player selection and coaching and it may be a valid excuse but Canada isn't the dominant power in hockey anymore and in a bad year like this one, better coaching and a player or 2 may have gotten them to the bronze medal game.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Watching TSN broadcast continue to carry water for Hockey Canada hints at another part of the problem.

In the post game, they spent more time blaming the officials and the players than management.



It's a total echo chamber, and I imagine Hockey Canada brass likely surrounds themselves with sycophants like Bob McKenzie who will look to blame anyone else but HC. Until that stops, don't expect something to change.

lol “and then the Finnish referee decided to call a penalty” you can’t make this stuff up

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Stop ignoring college players would be a start. Michael Hage is right there with Hagens and Leonard for points but never even got a camp invite as it’s all predetermined - also only 6 PIMS…

What’s the deal with that? Punishing players who “defect” and play in the states?

 

[robertmac43]

It comes down to roster construction, this team just wasn't built right.

 

[TheDoldrums]

You can talk about player selection and coaching and it may be a valid excuse but Canada isn't the dominant power in hockey anymore and in a bad year like this one, better coaching and a player or 2 may have gotten them to the bronze medal game.

Canada still looks pretty dominant

 

[Zarzh]

Why not? You really think they would've done worse?

Also needed more offense from the back end. Parekh and Yakemchuk. TC went overboard on conservative, defensive, lesser talented players in the name of team chemistry and team roles, but it looks pretty silly in retrospect, when nothing clicks, and the teram takes a bunch of penalties.

I don't want to single out any one player - the team was less than the sum of their parts, while teams like Latvia, Germany, CZE were the opposite. That points to an off ice problem.

Probably you don't want too many frail guys you aren't sure will produce, the lack of practice and adjustment hurt them. Could've won with better luck and should've with better coaching.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

What’s the deal with that? Punishing players who “defect” and play in the states?

Politics for sure also too much emphasis on pre-U20 HC experience, some players decline and some breakout after U17/18s

 

[Golden_Jet]

If Czechs got players from NHL like Pastrnak, Necas, Chytil etc they would also easily win, see how stupid your argument is? This thread is getting really annoying, you behave like sore losers.

Lmao, so Canada can bring McDavid now,
You do realize it’s a U20 tournament.

 

[Takeahnase]

Management and team selection is the biggest problem including cameron who should not be coaching.

I found this gem in the aftermath though.

You would have been better off having Allen Iverson coaching this team. His comments on practice were less absurd.

 

[Heldig]

This is getting annoying really annoying, only thing this canadian team was able to do was focusing on knees, when getting their butt kicked. And that TSN commentary what a bunch of losers, absolutely pathetic, not to mention that faux pas with czech flag.

LOL focusing on knees. The first call was not a kneeing penalty. Probably was an elbowing penalty. Your guy faked an injury and got the call.

And Canada dominated your team - but lost. No butts were kicked. You complain Canada are sore losers. Win with some class.

ps dont know what the faux pas with the flag was

 

[TheBeastCoast]

They were talking about it on TSN tonight. Clearly the offensive strategy of this team was to get the puck from deep and float shots in and basically pray to bounce a puck off a players ass and in. All this talk about the team not having talent is flat out just not true. You can go up and down the roster and it is players having full on dominate seasons with their club teams. The offence was completely coached out of them almost to a man.

 

[Heldig]

They left too many good players off the roster.

They can twist it all they want but this was called as soon as the roster was announced. No, it was not "hindsight" as Bob tried suggesting on TSN. A majority of fans were saying it instantly.

Let's assume the roster selections were fine. What kind of coaching was that? Cameron misused his players and didn't even get the best out of the assets he had.

Just bad across the board.

They need to start picking the best players and choose a better coach. Look for coaches that can handle stars and know how to get them to buy in. That's a lot smarter than bringing in lower quality players.

Curious - do you have a roster you would put together if you were naming the team?

 

[DuklaNation]

What’s the deal with that? Punishing players who “defect” and play in the states?

You must be new here, that's be going on for 30 years.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

You must be new here, that's be going on for 30 years.

I am , I figured as much but I try not to assume

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Neirther did Canada. They win easily with the players that are in the NHL.

Lol, SE games are prone to upsets regardless of having "everyone".

I was an age peer of the players on the 1980 US Olympic Team. They were absolutely a hybrid USA A\B Team. Had at least 6 players who had they maintained NCAA Eligibility would have made the '80 team, including two HOF in Langway\Mullen.
The Soviets & Czechs lost to them with their intact teams.

You have no clue.

 

[Metroid]

Buddy of mine told me he was reading the comments on the Score App after the game and before he could screen cap it to show me it got deleted, but apparently it's because of the Arabs that Canada sucks in hockey now lol

Stupid stupid people out there. Or bots,

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Instead of picking the best players, they seem to want to pick a team handicapped by a salary cap, if that makes any sense.

They try to get grinders for grinding positions without realizing that superstar talent is better at grinding in a short tournament like this.

The top players can play a 4th line role better than a 4th liner for a 5 game tournament.

Should always be picking BPA and then make your lineup from those players.

You're better off having an Iginla or stone on your 4th line than a Maltby or Draper on your 4th line even if stone or Iginla would never play a grinder roll in the NHL is that makes sense.

Canada isn't only country screwing up. The 2015-2016 USA Team left off or not have access to Hanifin, Eichel, Larkin, Connor, Garland and Tuch. Still beat Canada with Marner, Point, Konecny, Barzal. Shit happens.