What's the minimum a first overall pick has to become to not be labelled a disappointment?

[elmaco]

Some drafts are weaker than others, but i'd guess it's the "Franchise" level.

 

[wetcoast]

RNH is a first line LW. I'd call him a disappointment as an Oilers fan.

2011 was also quite a weak draft year as was 2012.

When drafted he was being projected as an elite offensive centerman that was good defensively. He turned into a complimentary 60-pt top-6 winger that's been tied at the hip to McDavid and Draisaitl. I would associate that type of player as a 5-20 overall pick. A 1st? Disappointing.

sure a little bit but some of that is the draft year as no one was taking any other the 3 guys who have outscored him in the NHL #1 on draft day and who knows how their development in Edmonton would have gone anyways.

Mild disappointment but nothing major given the context.

 

[Paper]

I went more with the people. Nugent-Hopkins or Johnson are fine. I think labelling them as second liner, or especially top 4 defender is a bit unfair. Maybe it's cause I'm a Flames fan so I don't know what a top line center is but Nugent-Hopkins is still top 20 over the last 10 years in points as those listed as centers. Yeah, I mean he's clearly the second line when center but the guy in front of him isn't too bad.

But if you get those guys in a bad draft year where maybe 2 of the top 3 bust, you're feeling pretty good. If you get it in a year where they are being touted as the next one, then yeah they are a disappointment.

 

[Paper]

I'm also woefully unqualified to answer this question as a Flames fan

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

2011 was also quite a weak draft year as was 2012.


sure a little bit but some of that is the draft year as no one was taking any other the 3 guys who have outscored him in the NHL #1 on draft day and who knows how their development in Edmonton would have gone anyways.

Mild disappointment but nothing major given the context.

Yeah I wasn't trying to say that the Oilers could have made a better pick that year. The consensus at the time was him vs Adam Larsson and to some extent, Landeskog.

Would have been a disappointment no matter who they chose, some years are inevitably going to be disappointing.

 

[Mrb1p]

Franchise. Youre picking first, you should get a franchise player.

 

[the_fan]

Something in between McDavid and Yakupov

 

[MessierII]

I’d take Nugent Hopkins over Taylor hall so I’m not sure about your tiers but generally speaking you want a first line caliber player or top pair guy.

 

[Plural]

Like others have said, it depends on the draft. But optimally, you'd like to get a legit career 1st line player / 1st pairing D from the #1 pick.

Anything beyond that is gravy and anything below that is kind of "meh".

P.S. Don't pick goalies there.


Edit: Just thought of an example. Sebastian Aho, if you get #1 pick in an average draft. Sebastian Aho is pretty much the level of player I would be "fine" with. He's a legit #1 C, not the best out there but definitely not the worst. Kind of a jack of all trades. So that's the level for me.

 

[geebster]

It depends who is doing the rating:

For fans of the team drafting anything short of a franchise player is a disappointment.

From an objective/non fan perspective I'd say the line is first liner or top pair defenseman.

There's a lot of variance year to year and there are not a lot of top line or top D jobs with a lot of people competing for those spots already. Beating those guys out and being solidly top line or pair isn't a small thing.

Not that I'd know what it's like for my team to draft first overall.

 

[Rorschach]

I remember the 1996 draft. I think Ottawa did fine with Chris Phillips considering the junkpile available the rest of the first two rounds.