What's the max you'd give to Evans?

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le_sean

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My point is if a guy like McLeod who some would have argued last summer was an upgrade on Evans required such a price, what do you honestly expect to pay for a real upgrade on the current form of Evans?
League minimum because that player is currently in Laval.
 

Sorinth

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You are basing your argument on the premise that Evans absolutely wants to stay.
I'm basing mine on the reality that this is Jake Evans Career contract and his Agent is going to point that out to him you know like ADVISE him.
If Blake Coleman got 4.9 m for 6 years and guess what Jake Evans is in that same echelon and most people don't want him at 4M.

No one is saying his agent would refuse to honor his wishes that's an argument you decided to inject into what we were discussing.
No my argument is that agents will listen to what the player wants and then try to do that. I'm arguing against your insane idea that agents will work towards their own profit even at the expense of the players desires, and that somehow any agent who doesn't do that is bad at their job and should be fired. It's complete non-sense on your part. If the player wants to maximize their earnings the agent will work towards that, if the player wants to find a way to stay with the current team the agent will work towards that.
 

Rapala

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No my argument is that agents will listen to what the player wants and then try to do that. I'm arguing against your insane idea that agents will work towards their own profit even at the expense of the players desires, and that somehow any agent who doesn't do that is bad at their job and should be fired. It's complete non-sense on your part. If the player wants to maximize their earnings the agent will work towards that, if the player wants to find a way to stay with the current team the agent will work towards that.
Yeah an Agent advising his client on what is out there and where the market is at is insane. LMFAO

No need for free agency WTF were they thinking? :dunno:
 

Picaroon

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The Habs need to be very calculated with how they build their bottom 6 starting with their decision on Evans.

I'm ok with slightly over paying home grown bottom 6 players but you have to look at the context of the bottom 6. Is it smart to pay Evans 4mil when Gallagher and Anderson are likely locked into bottom 6 spots for the next 2 years? Heineman will be looking for a new deal and you are stuck with Newhook and maybe Dach in bottom 6 roles. It's starting to get a bit out of hand from a cap perspective.

Then you have Beck, Kapanen, Tuch, Xhekaj etc. looking for spots next season. Do you gamble on bringing rookies up soon or does that set the timeline back another year? I would like to see them push for a playoff spot next year myself and no doubt Evans can help with that goal. But does it handicap the team from improving other areas (defence)? It will be very interesting to see how they navigate this.
 
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Goldthorpe

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The moment we lose Evans is the moment we'll be looking to replace him. C is too important a position to just trust homegrown development. He's the only UFA I'm willing the sign - all the others can be traded or let go and replaced relatively easily. But Evans is too important.
 

Sorinth

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Yeah an Agent advising his client on what is out there and where the market is at is insane. LMFAO

No need for free agency WTF were they thinking? :dunno:
Advising their client on what they could get on the open market isn't what you said earlier. You said they would always tell their client go to FA because they had a financial interest in maximizing the contract even at the expense of what the player wanted.
 

Frankenheimer

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Jake Evans:

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Kaiden Ghoul

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Would trade him, i think we could get a good return with picks and maybe pack them later to climb the draft
 

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If we can get a 1st round pick + for Evans, I would trade him personally considering that Beck knocks at the door and Kapanem will come to next camp better prepared.

Keep in mind that we are still in the rebuild process, but I wouldnt be disappointed if management think otherwise and extend him either.
 

Rapala

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If we can get a 1st round pick + for Evans, I would trade him personally considering that Beck knocks at the door and Kapanem will come to next camp better prepared.

Keep in mind that we are still in the rebuild process, but I wouldnt be disappointed if management think otherwise and extend him either.
He should garner a first. He can totally be the missing piece similar to what Blake Coleman was for Tampa.
 
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Andrei79

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If we can get a 1st round pick + for Evans, I would trade him personally considering that Beck knocks at the door and Kapanem will come to next camp better prepared.

Keep in mind that we are still in the rebuild process, but I wouldnt be disappointed if management think otherwise and extend him either.

I'd keep him unless a gross overpayment. He's like Lehkonen, you need some good, hard working veterans to surround the youth. Theres no rush as many of the prospects can play in the AHL again next year and two spots (Armia, Dvorak) are opening up.

I think he's easily worth a first though.
 
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le_sean

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The moment we lose Evans is the moment we'll be looking to replace him. C is too important a position to just trust homegrown development. He's the only UFA I'm willing the sign - all the others can be traded or let go and replaced relatively easily. But Evans is too important.
You’d have a point if we didn’t have his replacement in Laval and another in Finland.
 

Walksss

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Is this the next Danault where in a more offensive role he puts together some nice season totals?

In any case I can live with the results. If we trade him, he's gonna return a 1st for sure. If we sign him, it's because management is gonna get him on a good deal, Hughes has been good with that.

Ideal scenario is you trade him for the 1st and then resign him in the summer cause he loves it here and he wants to help build the dynasty. What a guy.
 

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You’d have a point if we didn’t have his replacement in Laval and another in Finland.
Neither Beck nor Kapanen has shown anything at the NHL level yet. It's far from certain that both, or either, will ever be regular NHL centers. Signing Evans gives the team time to find out what they have in those players. If both end up making it, Evans can always be traded in 2-3 years. Right now, there is plenty of room at center for Evans, as the team will have no experienced depth at center next season -- Suzuki is the only center under contract next season (assuming Dach and Newhook are more suited to playing wing).
 
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le_sean

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Neither Beck nor Kapanen has shown anything at the NHL level yet. It's far from certain that both, or either, will ever be regular NHL centers. Signing Evans gives the team time to find out what they have in those players. If both end up making it, Evans can always be traded in 2-3 years. Right now, there is plenty of room at center for Evans, as the team will have no experienced depth at center next season -- Suzuki is the only center under contract next season (assuming Dach and Newhook are more suited to playing wing).
Beck is having a better AHL rookie season at 20 than Evans did at 22. He also has far more success as a junior/NCAA player. He has the draft pedigree too. I’ll take my chances rather than overpay for a guy playing like a 3C for the first time in his career.
 
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Vachon23

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Neither Beck nor Kapanen has shown anything at the NHL level yet. It's far from certain that both, or either, will ever be regular NHL centers. Signing Evans gives the team time to find out what they have in those players. If both end up making it, Evans can always be traded in 2-3 years. Right now, there is plenty of room at center for Evans, as the team will have no experienced depth at center next season -- Suzuki is the only center under contract next season (assuming Dach and Newhook are more suited to playing wing).
Exactly !

And even if Beck is ready, he probably won’t be at Evans level before 2-3 season
 

Habs

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Kent will move him for a 3rd round pick, then fail to fill his void, making you wonder WTF he was thinking .
 

Ezpz

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Kent will move him for a 3rd round pick, then fail to fill his void, making you wonder WTF he was thinking .
This happens to every depth player who is still in their prime here.

Then somehow we overpay ones from other teams like moen or prust.
 
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crazyd74

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The only reason why I would let Evans go is to land a proper 2C (by means of a packaged deal). Otherwise, sign him as the lasting veteran presence on the bottom 6 as Dvorak, Armia, Anderson and Gallagher are on their way out.

They can't all be solely replaced by our prospects. We still need some veteran presence. None of the other four will help to land you a 2C.

Laine is no lock either. We could find ourselves quite depleted and we cannot wager on our prospects to fit all these roles, and even less from the market, UFA specifically.
 

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