What's the max you'd give to Evans?

[ThaDevilGirl]

I'd easily give him the Armia contract.

I'd also consider extending Yoël...

 

[Whalers Fan]

Technically if you sign Evans long term you leave no spot open. You don't want Kapanen, Beck or Hage to start straight on a 2nd line you want them to start in the bottom 6. Evans ain't a 2nd line center which means if Dach continues to play like that you have to find a vet 2nd line center which will leave only the 4th line center spot open. If Evans' contract is 3 years or less not really an issue Beck can spend a 2nd year in the AHL and then play on the 4th for a year and Hage can stay in school for 1 more year or two and then play in the AHL for 1 year or 2. But if Evans' contract is 4-5 years you lock jam Beck/Hage on a 4th line. I personally don't think it makes any sense to sign Evans for more than 3 years. Evans will more than likely be a flash in the pan i don't see him remaining good enough to warrant 4 millions into his mid 30ies. Focus should be high end skills. If Evans wants to sign 3 years fine if not bye bye imo.

Neither Kapanen nor Hage should be playing in the NHL next season.

I voted around 3 million. At end of day he's a fourth line center. Beck can replace him next year

Beck will be replacing Dvorak next season.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

$4M at a $100M+ cap ceiling is equivalent to what $3M is today… from what I see posted here don’t see posters having issues if Evans is locked up at $3M

The reality is there is a guaranteed 25-35% inflation on salaries w expected signifiant climb of cap ceiling

Yeah the problem is all the Top 6 FWDs/Top 4D/#1Gs expect to cash in on the Cap going up as well and that is where we need to focus our attention first. We already have a $17MM third line, need to rebalance that and address the 2hole

 

[morhilane]

A player most people saw being traded at TDL before the season starts now needs to be signed because he's increasing his trade value.
Okay then.

Underdog players doing well has always been the Achilles's heels of the Habs fandom.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

I'd rather invest the money in a good top 6 vet center than Evans personally. Beck can play the 3rd line role and Evans wont play on a 4th anymore.


Did they have Anderson at 5.5 and Gallagher at 6.5? Still two years remaining. After those two years Evans will be 31 how effective will he be at that point? Roy was 25 when Vegas won their cup. Also i doubt Evans will sign at 3 and if he does it will be july 10th or so because nobody is offering more.

I'm looking at cap hit %. I understand your point about Anderson and Gally. I think they maybe tradeable based on their play this year. Anyway let's be honest, we're not 2 years away from SC contention. But Evans can still be helpful at 32 or 33. A guy like Dominic Moore was 30-31 in his MTL/TB stints

 

[CHfan1]

I'd rather invest the money in a good top 6 vet center than Evans personally. Beck can play the 3rd line role and Evans wont play on a 4th anymore.

I’d like to see them sign a good top 6 centre also, but I still don’t think that precludes them from signing Evans as well. The risk will be if they don’t resign Evans before July 1st and they haven’t made a trade for another centre, that leaves them with only Suzuki’s their veteran centre (if they believe Dach doesn’t fit as a centre).

Also, we don’t know yet if Beck can easily step into that 3rd line centre role, and, also, who plays the 4th line centre? If Beck doesn’t work out as planned what is their plan B? That’s why I think it’s safer to resign Evans at 4 years (not any more than that) to give them added depth there.

 

[LaP]

Neither Kapanen nor Hage should be playing in the NHL next season.


Beck will be replacing Dvorak next season.

Did you even read the post? I hate when people reply without reading ...

If Evans' contract is 3 years or less not really an issue Beck can spend a 2nd year in the AHL and then play on the 4th for a year and Hage can stay in school for 1 more year or two and then play in the AHL for 1 year or 2.

The plan imo should be to get a 2nd line center next summer on a 2-3 years deal and have Beck centering the 3rd line. That give you 2-3 years to evaluate Beck and know if he's a 2nd line center or 3rd line center. That gives Hage the time to grow in school and AHL. You then can have Kapanen in the AHL for a year and centering the 4th line. This way when Hage comes in the NHL you'll know what you have in beck and Kapanen.

 

[McGees]

Got any examples? Lol

Savard.
Matheson.
Anderson.

 

[LaP]

I'm looking at cap hit %. I understand your point about Anderson and Gally. I think they maybe tradeable based on their play this year. Anyway let's be honest, we're not 2 years away from SC contention. But Evans can still be helpful at 32 or 33. A guy like Dominic Moore was 30-31 in his MTL/TB stints

Don't forget you have to resign Hutson after next season. What's the plan? Bridge him. Buy him a dog? Take it or leave it offer? Or you secure him long term for 7-8 millions. Do we even have the space to sign Evans at 4 millions and extend Hutson with Guhle and Slaf in for a big raise next season? Last year i said all along KH would trade Monahan unless he wanted to sign a team friendly contract for a short term. I think the same with Evans. If Evans sign at 3-3.5 for 3 years i can see KH signing him. If he wants more i think KH will reap the reward and move on, Can be wrong obviously I think 2nd line center is a much bigger need than what Evans bring.

 

[General Fanager]

4 years at 3.5

He can help and 3.5 is small enough to move easily in a few years if he isn't needed anymore

 

[MarkJ]

3.75, 5 years. More term but less money. He'll want term with the injuries he had.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Savard.
Matheson.
Anderson.

First two, you can't ice a bunch of rookies on D. The team just had to trade for a veteran.
Anderson, if he keeps it up, I doubt they'll be losing out on whatever value he had 2 years ago. With his PK role he's actually a more valuable player than he used to be

Don't forget you have to resign Hutson after next season. What's the plan? Bridge him. Buy him a dog? Take it or leave it offer? Or you secure him long term for 7-8 millions. Do we even have the space to sign Evans at 4 millions and extend Hutson with Guhle and Slaf in for a big raise next season? Last year i said all along KH would trade Monahan unless he wanted to sign a team friendly contract for a short term. I think the same with Evans. If Evans sign at 3-3.5 for 3 years i can see KH signing him. If he wants more i think KH will reap the reward and move on, Can be wrong obviously I think 2nd line center is a much bigger need than what Evans bring.

Those are valid points but we are looking at clearing some $$$ this summer. Demidov will be on his ELC. Core up front is underpaid with how cap is trending. You can't pay every bottom 6 quality money but if you have to pay premium on one. Evans makes the most sense.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

4 x 4 seems fair for Heavens. Get rid of Dvokrap asap and bring up Beck.

 

[McGees]

First two, you can't ice a bunch of rookies on D. The team just had to trade for a veteran.
Anderson, if he keeps it up, I doubt they'll be losing out on whatever value he had 2 years ago. With his PK role he's actually a more valuable player than he used to be


Those are valid points but we are looking at clearing some $$$ this summer. Demidov will be on his ELC. Core up front is underpaid with how cap is trending. You can't pay every bottom 6 quality money but if you have to pay premium on one. Evans makes the most sense.

You could sign any vet in the offseason for ‘locker room’ presence. Anyone that wasn’t drinking the koolaid could see their values were only going to go down from where they were, and Matheson could have got a great return.
Anderson is having a better year but his value vs contract days are over.

 

[CHfan1]

Don't forget you have to resign Hutson after next season. What's the plan? Bridge him. Buy him a dog? Take it or leave it offer? Or you secure him long term for 7-8 millions. Do we even have the space to sign Evans at 4 millions and extend Hutson with Guhle and Slaf in for a big raise next season? Last year i said all along KH would trade Monahan unless he wanted to sign a team friendly contract for a short term. I think the same with Evans. If Evans sign at 3-3.5 for 3 years i can see KH signing him. If he wants more i think KH will reap the reward and move on, Can be wrong obviously I think 2nd line center is a much bigger need than what Evans bring.

They’d have enough room with Evans at $4 million and Hutson at $8 million in 2026-27. With the cap going up around 5% per year, the cap would be at around $97 million in 2026-27.

They’d have around $65.7 million invested in 14 players. This would include Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Gallagher, Anderson, Newhook, Demidov, Beck, Evans, (Hage or Kapanen), Carrier, Guhle, Hutson, and Montembeault. There is also the potential to have players like Reinbacher on ELC as well that season.

That would leave $31.3 million to sign 8-9 players. They would then have Gallagher, Anderson, and Carrier off the books the next season opening up another $15.75 million for 2027-28.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

You could sign any vet in the offseason for ‘locker room’ presence. Anyone that wasn’t drinking the koolaid could see their values were only going to go down from where they were, and Matheson could have got a great return.
Anderson is having a better year but his value vs contract days are over.

Anderson's contract never had any value in a positive manner, and what D are you talking about? Savard would have required an overpayment which they didn't get

 

[McGees]

Anderson's contract never had any value in a positive manner, and what D are you talking about? Savard would have required an overpayment which they didn't get

Ya Anderson did when Hughes first came.
I would have taken late 1st or 2nd for Savard. Ain’t worth crap now.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Ya Anderson did when Hughes first came.
I would have taken late 1st or 2nd for Savard. Ain’t worth crap now.

Hes regressed but he's still part of a great PK, great in the room and dude is -2 on a team who's bad 5 on 5. Based on reputation he can return a 3rd, possibly more. One team just has to look at how Xhekaj has looked next to him to value what he brings.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

Double what he’s been making, which would be the same contract we gave to Armia. 4 years at 3.4mill per. Anything over that would be a mistake.
I like Jake, good utility player, great on the penalty kill. He’s playing like a 4.5 million dollar player this season in a contract year, but we all know he’s not worth that much.

 

[Frankenheimer]

The supposed "contract year boost" is a myth when you take into account all expiring contracts. People like to bring it up to look smart. The first free agency period also happens to coincide with prime development years where making jumps in performance would be normal. Poor peforming players likely never reach free agency through the normal route either. They are probably waived or released. So they're not included in the pool reaching free agency. Its by definition a higher performing group. So there's a lot of holes with that "theory".

I would def sign Evans.

 

[JianYang]

A lot of the arguments here are PTSD triggers. Only one center and all that stuff... that's how we got lumbered with Christian f***ing Dvorak. Not having faith in the kids coming up in case they fail, is how we got terrible vets on longterm, unmoveable contracts.

Let's learn from prior mistakes.

Dvorak was a result of a GM in panic mode who lost danault for nothing.

 

[SwiftyHab]

4 years @ $3,876,549.97

Not a penny more. Will hurt our cap structure.

 

[SwiftyHab]

4 years at 3.5

Sure but Would you consider 3.5 years at 4?

 

[Team_Spirit]

Dvorak -

Evans +

 

[Bottomshelf]

I’d do 3.5-4 x 4 we are shedding Dvorak and Evan’s is a versatile player for us, really strong on the PK and meshes well with different styles of players