What's the deal with all the underachieving players this season?

BonMorrison

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Ah yes let me consult my fantasy team.

Yes - Robertson, Stamkos, Verhaeghe, and Tkachuk can all kiss my ass right now.

At least Verhaeghe had a beautiful assist on the ENG last night!
 

TheDawnOfANewTage

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I think the game is simply played at such a high level now that it’s tough for guys to get it going some years. If their training was off, if they have some nagging issue, if they just aren’t feeling right.

Quinn is the guy for the Sabres- couple nasty injuries but he seemed to bounce right back. Now he has a full healthy offseason, yet enters this year lookin awful out there.

It’s just a tough sport, man. There used to be like a 5%+ skill gap between the worst and best NHLers. Now dudes battle like hell because it’s closer to 1%. (I made those numbers up, but you get the concept. Player parity is real).
 

Bard Marchand

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Why is it typical Flyers for him to do well elsewhere. Bobrovsky is pretty old news.
Bobrovsky is like 13 years ago, of course it's old news. Why even bring him up?

But speaking of Flyers goaltending, both Anthony Stolarz and Alex Lyon have both improved since leaving the team. Lyon has been better than expected playing for Detroit and Stolarz is not only better than expected, but playing extremely well for Toronto.
 

GettingYourMoms

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The hell is this thread? Season just started. I am for example sure that Pasta will outscore Nečas despite Nečas absolutely killing it right now. There is just no way in hell of Necas nearly tripling his points totals from previous season and if yes i am gonna cut my balls and rub some salt in the wound.
 

SJSharksfan39

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The Players isnt't until March 11th, can't predict it yet.

I think Scottie Scheffler might be high up on that list though. I feel like he became the modern day Tiger Woods this year.

As for this thread, should I try to trade Pastrnak and Marchand in Fantasy? Those players have been struggling a lot this season and it's depressing.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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Looked it up. Here is what I got. This is how you do it OP:

Arvidsson - 16GP 2g 3a 5p
Barzal - 10GP 2g 3a 5p
Beniers - 20GP 4g 6a 10p
Benson - 13GP 3g 1a 4p
Byfield - 20GP 2g 7a 9p
Couturier - 19GP 3g 6a 9p
Cozens - 19GP 3g 4a 7p
Dach - 19GP 1g 7a 8p
Debrusk - 18GP 3g 7a 10p
Faber - 19GP 2g 8a 10p
Hall - 19GP 2g 4a 6p
Heiskanen - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Hutson - 19GP 0g 11a 11p
Hyman - 20GP 3g 5a 8p
Johnston - 18GP 3g 6a 9p
Kane - 19GP 3g 7a 10p
Karlsson - 21GP 2g 9a 11p
Kreider - 18GP 9g 0a 9p
Letang - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Marchessault - 20GP 3g 7a 10p
Matthews - 13GP 5g 6a 11p
McAvoy - 21GP 3g 4a 7p
Meier - 22GP 7g 5a 12p
Pettersson - 18GP 6g 7a 13p
RNH - 21GP 2g 7a 9p
Robertson - 18GP 5g 6a 11p
Skinner - 21GP 4g 3a 7p
Slafkovsky - 16GP 1g 10a 11p
Stamkos - 20GP 6g 4a 10p
Tippett - 20GP 4g 6a 10p
Toews - 16GP 1g 4a 5p
Verhaeghe - 20GP 4g 9a 11p
Wright - 18GP 1g 1a 2p
Zegras - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Zibanejad - 18GP 4g 10a 14p

Def some talking points here.
Transfer OP to this guy , good work
 

Breakers

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American thanksgiving

Friedman and all insiders talks about that deadline
All teams and GM’s know that’s probably the team they have, and the way a player is going to perform for the rest of the season

Pettersson and Roberton are 100 point alumni but both look like they have woken up in the past few
 

Bounces R Way

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thrillhous

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Looked it up. Here is what I got. This is how you do it OP:

Arvidsson - 16GP 2g 3a 5p
Barzal - 10GP 2g 3a 5p
Beniers - 20GP 4g 6a 10p
Benson - 13GP 3g 1a 4p
Byfield - 20GP 2g 7a 9p
Couturier - 19GP 3g 6a 9p
Cozens - 19GP 3g 4a 7p
Dach - 19GP 1g 7a 8p
Debrusk - 18GP 3g 7a 10p
Faber - 19GP 2g 8a 10p
Hall - 19GP 2g 4a 6p
Heiskanen - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Hutson - 19GP 0g 11a 11p
Hyman - 20GP 3g 5a 8p
Johnston - 18GP 3g 6a 9p
Kane - 19GP 3g 7a 10p
Karlsson - 21GP 2g 9a 11p
Kreider - 18GP 9g 0a 9p
Letang - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Marchessault - 20GP 3g 7a 10p
Matthews - 13GP 5g 6a 11p
McAvoy - 21GP 3g 4a 7p
Meier - 22GP 7g 5a 12p
Pettersson - 18GP 6g 7a 13p
RNH - 21GP 2g 7a 9p
Robertson - 18GP 5g 6a 11p
Skinner - 21GP 4g 3a 7p
Slafkovsky - 16GP 1g 10a 11p
Stamkos - 20GP 6g 4a 10p
Tippett - 20GP 4g 6a 10p
Toews - 16GP 1g 4a 5p
Verhaeghe - 20GP 4g 9a 11p
Wright - 18GP 1g 1a 2p
Zegras - 18GP 2g 4a 6p
Zibanejad - 18GP 4g 10a 14p

Def some talking points here.
Great job. But surely you must have meant to include Hintz in that spot instead of Hutson?
 

Wats

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Bobrovsky is like 13 years ago, of course it's old news. Why even bring him up?

But speaking of Flyers goaltending, both Anthony Stolarz and Alex Lyon have both improved since leaving the team. Lyon has been better than expected playing for Detroit and Stolarz is not only better than expected, but playing extremely well for Toronto.

I mean I'm not going to debate those 2 aren't better after leaving Philly but I wouldn't say it's necessarily something worth noting as 'typical'. Seems most players that get let go by the Flyers end up doing nothing. If Frost ends up leaving, recent history shows he'll likely end up out of the league fairly quickly after.
 

thedjpd

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I mean I'm not going to debate those 2 aren't better after leaving Philly but I wouldn't say it's necessarily something worth noting as 'typical'. Seems most players that get let go by the Flyers end up doing nothing. If Frost ends up leaving, recent history shows he'll likely end up out of the league fairly quickly after.
Don't say that. Frost is a 70-80 point C on any other team in the league except the Flyers because of Torts.
 

benfranklin

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Great job. But surely you must have meant to include Hintz in that spot instead of Hutson?
I hate to love the Stars so tried to give them a break and look at it like Seguin is taking his points right now. They feel like the Blues of 2019 where no one is going to put up a ton of points and they could easily win the Cup because they're so deep. Hintz's ceiling to me is a ppg player so putting up 60-70 wont be insanely off the mark.

And Hutson was a minor joke with how much Habs fans pumped him up lol.
 
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Dominance

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Rather enjoying how likely Four Nations names stack up right now in terms of P/GP between Canada and the US:

MacKinnon - 1.70
Stone - 1.62
Reinhart - 1.50
Strome - 1.47
Eichel - 1.45
McDavid - 1.39
Marner - 1.30
Scheifele - 1.26
Connor - 1.26
Konecny - 1.15
Point - 1.14
J. Hughes - 1.14
Thompson - 1.13 (injured?)
Cirelli - 1.06
Hagel - 1.06
B. Tkachuk - 1.05
Boldy - 1.05
Suzuki - 1.00
Guentzel - 1.00
Crosby - 0.95
Bennett - 0.95
Tuch - 0.95
Miller - 0.94 (out?)
Thomas - 0.89
M. Tkachuk - 0.87
Matthews - 0.85 (injured?)
Larkin - 0.84
Keller - 0.84
Caufield - 0.84
Lafreniere - 0.83 (basically all ES)
Bedard - 0.75
Marchand - 0.67
Robertson - 0.61
Trocheck - 0.56
Kane - 0.53
Kreider - 0.50
 

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