WJC: What's right with USA?
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FunkySeeFunkyDoo
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The US development program has been emphasizing speed and skill for a long, long time.
As player participation rates in the US have increased over that same time period, it was only a matter of time before they'd get to the point where they'd send teams where every guy on the roster was a very good player.
As player participation rates in the US have increased over that same time period, it was only a matter of time before they'd get to the point where they'd send teams where every guy on the roster was a very good player.
Beukeboom Fan
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As an American, I don't think he's wrong. Put the eligible kids currently on NHL rosters and it's a very different result.
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WarriorofTime
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Looks like David Carle makes about $750K at Denver. About half of NHL coaches are over $2 million with the highest around $5 million. Carle is certainly in enough demand to command a big offer. Denver won't be able to match close to what NHL teams will be willing to pay.
You mean guys that were hurt? Ryan Murray didn't even play in the NHL in 2012-13, but yeah I'm sure he would have been able to stop the Canadians from getting dominated by the US.
US had Jack Hughes available in 2021. Hughes >> Laf lol
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3 - Benson, Bedard, Celebrini.
Luchanko and Ritchie got in games before being sent back down prior to the ELC Slide expiring.
USA has 1 - Smith.
And those are the only four players that are eligible age-wise for the WJC that are in the NHL.
Look, in '13 and '21 each country had for the most part their countries best players available and US beat Canada and won Gold. In '13 most people felt Canada was better and would win but they didn't. '21 was the same, all you heard was how unbeatable the Canadians were, but US won again.
Even going back to '04 Canada though admittedly missing Burns, Bergeron and Staal were considered a huge favorite. US beat them while having players such as Backes, Callahan and Byfuglien not selected with decent enough resumes.
The US is at a level now that if Canada doesn't take seriously getting the best players and the best coach, winning gold will be a 50-50 proposition at best.It's to be expected. I mean, despite how shit the last two tourneys have been for Canada, they did win two golds back to back just prior to that, one with that buffoon Cameron behind the bench, no less. These things go in cycles, but I hope that we get a match between both nations at top strength in the near future. Love this rivalry.
Don’t have to be Canadian for it to be BS. You are attempting to discredit the U.S. it was a backhanded compliment. Leonard is dramatic, but he was the tournament MVP.
10+ times a game is ridiculous. US was the best team and won because they had the best players
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Coaching
You’d be hard pressed to find a coach who is accomplishing more currently that isn’t an NHL coach
His resume over the last 3 years is insane
You’d be hard pressed to find a coach who is accomplishing more currently that isn’t an NHL coach
His resume over the last 3 years is insane
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I literally said they won because they were well coached and took the best players lmfao holy moly
They still dive an embarrassing amount though
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It is an absolutely beautiful program and doing great things. If they ever get a few more states to love hockey, everyone is in trouble. I'd recomment Wyoming and Montana to start. Nebraska and Iowa next. Then go south and hit Oklahoma!
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Territory. Like Guam, but with igloos and poutine.
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Do they have more registered skaters than Canada? Even in MN, by far the biggest producer of NHLers, it’s still a niche sport. Genuinely curious
westc2
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Hot take: I think team USA still would have won gold even if Canada had Bedard and Celebrini. They seemed to be rolling on all cylinders.
Luigi Lemieux
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I think the US overtook them in 22-23. It's close though, both at 500k+.
Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2023 | Statista
In the 2022/23 season, the United States had the most registered ice hockey players out of any country worldwide.
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It would’ve been close. US would get Smith, and reunite him with GP & RL to form what would’ve been the best line in the tournament. Canada lacks goalies and chemistry and discipline. It’s not like lost in the semis by a goal. They were awful and lost to Latvia and barely beat Germany.
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I think Canada still has more male registered players which will have more relevance for these purposes.I think the US overtook them in 22-23. It's close though, both at 500k+.
Ice hockey players per country worldwide 2023 | Statista
In the 2022/23 season, the United States had the most registered ice hockey players out of any country worldwide.
Luigi Lemieux
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Yea not sure what the breakdown is by gender. But I doubt it moves the needle too much. I imagine the amount of female registered players is a small fraction of the total.
He makes 750K? Wow... hell of a lot for a sport that doesn't make money.
