OT: Whatcha Listening To?

[chosen]

Was a fantastic show.

Was originally scheduled to go The Stones in Philly tomorrow, but it got pushed back to July 23.

Debating about going to Aerosmith in Atlantic City, but I just wait for the tour.

Mid-life crisis in full swing.

Saw Billy Joel for free in the 70's at a bar in Queens College.

I'm on a Johnny Winter bender, lately.

Favorite shows in past year are David Byrne and Marcus King.

Oops. Forgot Mindi Abair and the Boneshakers.

 

[aufheben]

I have pretty much all their early stuff--pretty much up through Perverted by Language and practically all of that is in vinyl. I also have a bunch of 45's. After that I have this and that--either on cassette, CD or iTunes.

The 'Live at the Witchtrials' LP is the band as a democracy--after that record it becomes Mark E. Smith as a dictator pretty much from there until Smith died a year or so ago. I don't how many people played in the band over the years but there is used to be a joke that if you were a musician and from Manchester England chances were you had played for the Fall. Witchtrials is really different from any of their other records though--kind of psychedelic and dirge-y. Smith as a vocalist doesn't sing so much as rant his way through--it is a unique voice and an unique way of expressing--sometimes mumbling , sometimes mocking, sometimes speaking in voices.

Kay Carroll managed the band after the departure of Bramah and Baines etc. that signaled the transition from democracy to dictatorship. Carroll was his girlfriend and the two of them took complete control. Brix came along later and Mark and her began an affair. It came to a head between Mark and Kay on their tour bus going to a gig somewhere in the Midwest. Carroll stopped the bus on a highway and walked off in the middle of a blizzard. After that Mark marries Brix.

Anyway there's a book written by Steven Hanley--the longest serving member of band other than Mark called The Big Midweek which is a great read and there's a lot of hilarious **** that happens.

Hah I just heard about this yesterday while talking about this and have ordered a copy.

Also, I had no idea in 2017 Cherry Red released a compilation containing every Fall single, The Fall - Singles 1978-2016. It took four years to compile.

Seven f***ing CDs.

 

[eco's bones]

Hah I just heard about this yesterday while talking about this and have ordered a copy.

Also, I had no idea in 2017 Cherry Red released a compilation containing every Fall single, The Fall - Singles 1978-2016. It took four years to compile.

Seven ****ing CDs.

They had a shitload of 45's. I don't know how many I have--it's a bunch. There's one missing and I don't know what happened to it and it's my favorite--Totally wired. That's a song that I think only showed up live (it's in A part of America therein) at least until that 2017 compilation came out.

 

[NCRanger]

Battle Beast will be touring USA (their 3rd time) this year

Interesting. Charlotte is a Sunday night in September.

 

[Edge]

Saw Billy Joel for free in the 70's at a bar in Queens College.

I'm on a Johnny Winter bender, lately.

Favorite shows in past year are David Byrne and Marcus King.

Oops. Forgot Mindi Abair and the Boneshakers.

First saw/heard Mindi Abair on a business trip in Nashville about 15 years back and was sold.

 

[True Blue]

Mid-life crisis in full swing.

Seriously. The Who is at MSG I think soon.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Favorite shows in past year are David Byrne

The Byrne show was incredible. Unlike anything I have ever seen.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Been on a big Dead Weather binge of late.

 

[chosen]

The Byrne show was incredible. Unlike anything I have ever seen.

First saw Talking Heads in a classroom at UCLA. About 30 of us. A guy played folk songs before them. A guy in the audience goofed on him. We had to break up a fistfight between them.

Saw them a bunch of times. Always great. Byrne's tour is just as great but very different. Sort of a Latin-type show heavy on percussion.

I've met Tina, the bass player from Talking Heads. She and the others are furious at Byrne for refusing to do a reunion tour. It would be a huge cash return for them, But Byrne refuses to "go backward".

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Yeah so McCartney’s debut album is super underrated

I mean it’s not surprising that people were so meh on it back in the day, releasing a lo-fi, recorded in the bedroom type album as your follow up to leaving the Beatles is definitely an interesting move.

Regardless of any of that though, it’s as charming as Paul gets, this album. Just great, simple pop tunes.

 

[Edge]

Yeah so McCartney’s debut album is super underrated

I mean it’s not surprising that people were so meh on it back in the day, releasing a lo-fi, recorded in the bedroom type album as your follow up to leaving the Beatles is definitely an interesting move.

Regardless of any of that though, it’s as charming as Paul gets, this album. Just great, simple pop tunes.

I have to tell you, I've enjoyed a lot of his work from 1997 to now: Flaming Pie, Driving Rain, and Egypt Station in particular.

I'll always lean more toward Harrison, and some of Lennon's more...uh...straight forward work, but McCartney has grown on me with time and repeated listenings at older stages of my life.

 

[Bluenote13]

I have to tell you, I've enjoyed a lot of his work from 1997 to now: Flaming Pie, Driving Rain, and Egypt Station in particular.

I'll always lean more toward Harrison, and some of Lennon's more...uh...straight forward work, but McCartney has grown on me with time and repeated listenings at older stages of my life.

I've never disagreed with you more.

Egypt station? Unlistenable, his vocals sound really really bad. And lets not even mention how awful that 'Freedom' song is. I mean, the guy hasn't had a top ten hit in over 30 years, not expecting miracles but come on....

His best solo work is the 70's albums, and even those have some of the worst post Beatles songs, and that list includes Lennon's experimental stuff.

 

[Edge]

I've never disagreed with you more.

Egypt station? Unlistenable, his vocals sound really really bad. And lets not even mention how awful that 'Freedom' song is. I mean, the guy hasn't had a top ten hit in over 30 years, not expecting miracles but come on....

His best solo work is the 70's albums, and even those have some of the worst post Beatles songs, and that list includes Lennon's experimental stuff.

I enjoy his 70s work, the 80s and into the mid-90s didn't do much for me.

I thought his later work, while lacking in the vocals of his younger years, had a certain introspective quality to it. I heard a man who was looking back at his life with some fondness, a few questions, and a sense of darkness that was lacking in his earlier work. It felt less...naive, if you will.

 

[Bluenote13]

I enjoy his 70s work, the 80s and into the mid-90s didn't do much for me.

I thought his later work, while lacking in the vocals of his younger years, had a certain introspective quality to it. I heard a man who was looking back at his life with some fondness, a few questions, and a sense of darkness that was lacking in his earlier work. It felt less...naive, if you will.

That would make sense, right around the time Linda died.

Meh, I think you're better off listening to Bowie's catalogue over the last 30 than Paul Mac's

 

[Edge]

That would make sense, right around the time Linda died.

Meh, I think you're better off listening to Bowie's catalogue over the last 30 than Paul Mac's

And make no mistake, his work still ranks third among post-Beatles efforts. I tend to gravitate towards darker lyrics, or music that can sometimes be considered a little more brooding, so a song like House of Wax is probably more in my strike zone than something a little more poppy (his 80s work).

For whatever reason, Bowie is an artist that's always been hit or miss for me. In theory, he should be in that upper tier for my tastes. I have a lot of friends who love his work. I love a lot of artists he's been associated with over the years. And yet there's just not quite that click that one would expect. Kind of like when you and another person hang out with the same people, but you don't necessarily hit it off with that person.

 

[Bluenote13]

And make no mistake, his work still ranks third among post-Beatles efforts. I tend to gravitate towards darker lyrics, or music that can sometimes be considered a little more brooding, so a song like House of Wax is probably more in my strike zone than something a little more poppy (his 80s work).

For whatever reason, Bowie is an artist that's always been hit or miss for me. In theory, he should be in that upper tier for my tastes. I have a lot of friends who love his work. I love a lot of artists he's been associated with over the years. And yet there's just not quite that click that one would expect. Kind of like when you and another person hang out with the same people, but you don't necessarily hit it off with that person.

'Heathen' is a great album, saw him live on that tour in 2002. Couldn't believe how great he was, still had it when it came to singing, playing and being a showman, at 55 years old.

If you don't already know them, checkout Tin Machine, some interesting stuff from the late 80's, though I admit it is not everyone.

 

[chosen]

'Heathen' is a great album, saw him live on that tour in 2002. Couldn't believe how great he was, still had it when it came to singing, playing and being a showman, at 55 years old.

If you don't already know them, checkout Tin Machine, some interesting stuff from the late 80's, though I admit it is not everyone.

Bowie and Levi Stubbs are my favorite male singers.

First saw Bowie at Radio City on the Ziggy tour.

His early shows were great and great theater. At his later shows, he was incredibly relaxed and happy.

Hard to pick a favorite album, but David Live will always be one of them.

He is in my top tier.

 

[chosen]

Yeah so McCartney’s debut album is super underrated

I mean it’s not surprising that people were so meh on it back in the day, releasing a lo-fi, recorded in the bedroom type album as your follow up to leaving the Beatles is definitely an interesting move.

Regardless of any of that though, it’s as charming as Paul gets, this album. Just great, simple pop tunes.

Ram is a great album.

I can smell your feet a mile away.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Ram is a great album.

I can smell your feet a mile away.

Been getting into that one as well, it’s damn good. I know some people don’t like Linda (idk why) but I like her role on the album.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Yeah I would definitely take Paul’s best solo work over Harrison’s. Not to belittle Harrison, his debut solo album was very good.

But, I mean, I get it. Paul has made a lot of bad music, if we’re being objective.

It’s just that Paul’s Beatles songs/solo songs as a whole are > IMO than Lennon and especially Harrison. Harrison and Lennon (more Harrison) make great music and all but he just doesn’t compare to Paul as a vocalist, and when Paul combines his vocals with a genuine message/feeling, it’s unmatchable.

If we’re talking strictly post Beatles...I still take Paul.

I get Lennon more than Harrison, but some people just aren’t big fans of Lennon in general (I’m one of them). He’s basically my fourth favorite Beatle. Imagine? Ugh. Makes Admiral Halsey seem like high art.

 

[chosen]

Yeah I would definitely take Paul’s best solo work over Harrison’s. Not to belittle Harrison, his debut solo album was very good.

But, I mean, I get it. Paul has made a lot of bad music, if we’re being objective.

It’s just that Paul’s Beatles songs/solo songs as a whole are > IMO than Lennon and especially Harrison. Harrison and Lennon (more Harrison) make great music and all but he just doesn’t compare to Paul as a vocalist, and when Paul combines his vocals with a genuine message/feeling, it’s unmatchable.

If we’re talking strictly post Beatles...I still take Paul.

I get Lennon more than Harrison, but some people just aren’t big fans of Lennon in general (I’m one of them). He’s basically my fourth favorite Beatle. Imagine? Ugh. Makes Admiral Halsey seem like high art.

Most importantly, three amazingly talented boys met and formed a band that could literally have accounted for over 100 one-hit-wonder bands.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Lately been into Power Corruption and Lies

Lots of Your Silent Face and The Village

Oh and I listened to that new Daughters album that critics are losing their minds over....and honestly it lives up to the hype. I’ve never really listened to industrial like that but that album has gotten me into the genre.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Most importantly, three amazingly talented boys met and formed a band that could literally have accounted for over 100 one-hit-wonder bands.

Three Why you gotta do Ringo like that?

But yeah. We are barely even worthy as a species to have any of those guys.

 

[Edge]

Yeah I would definitely take Paul’s best solo work over Harrison’s. Not to belittle Harrison, his debut solo album was very good.

But, I mean, I get it. Paul has made a lot of bad music, if we’re being objective.

It’s just that Paul’s Beatles songs/solo songs as a whole are > IMO than Lennon and especially Harrison. Harrison and Lennon (more Harrison) make great music and all but he just doesn’t compare to Paul as a vocalist, and when Paul combines his vocals with a genuine message/feeling, it’s unmatchable.

If we’re talking strictly post Beatles...I still take Paul.

I get Lennon more than Harrison, but some people just aren’t big fans of Lennon in general (I’m one of them). He’s basically my fourth favorite Beatle. Imagine? Ugh. Makes Admiral Halsey seem like high art.

Lennon did some stuff that was pretty far out there, especially when he’d shoehorn Yoko into the act. I actually find him to have the biggest gap between material I love and could be content never hearing again in my life.

But if you’re looking for something a little different, may I recommend “Let it Be: Naked” for your consideration?

It’s closer to the simpler album McCartney originally wanted to make, pre- Wall of Sound.

I freely admit there are several songs I enjoy significantly more in this format.

 

[Rongomania]

Lennon did some stuff that was pretty far out there, especially when he’d shoehorn Yoko into the act. I actually find him to have the biggest gap between material I love and could be content never hearing again in my life.

But if you’re looking for something a little different, may I recommend “Let it Be: Naked” for your consideration?

It’s closer to the simpler album McCartney originally wanted to make, pre- Wall of Sound.

I freely admit there are several songs I enjoy significantly more in this format.

You know, honestly my favorite Paul are those pretty rare 'Get Back' tapes. He does about a trillion takes with tons of different awesome and hilarious lyrics. If you ever get a chance to listen to all nine hours of 'Get Back' get made. It was pretty cool. And George's playing on there is brilliant.

@eco's bones re: The Fall 45's -

That's freakin' neat man. I'm a big LP/45 guy, thank you for giving me a new sickness (hunting down all of those The Fall 45's).