What would it take for a modern coach to challenge Scotty Bowman for greatest coach of all time?

Duffy13

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Scotty Bowman is the only coach since World War 2 to win a cup with more than 1 team.

Not just that, But Bowman won with 3 different teams.
Then to top it all off, he was an advisor to the Hawks dynasty.

His name is on the cup 14 times.
9 times as a coach.



Someone has got to start winning a lot more cups to challenge Scotty.

Patty Burns may have done if it wasn't for the pesky Kerry Frasier!!!!!
 

BlueBaron

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His numbers are absurd. If you coach for 20 years and get 40 wins a year you are still 444 wins behind him. So 32 40 win seasons plus 4 to tie.

Even ignoring cups its a daunting task to be in the same conversation. Remember he had 314 ties also. Even if he only won 1/3 of those there is another 100+ wins...So you need a guy to coach to the playoffs 35 times or so and win a couple cups.
 

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Joel Quenville is 2nd all time in wins with 969 and 3 Stanley Cups to his name. If/when he comes back into the league and if he wins another 2+ Cups then it starts to get interesting.

Coaching is strange though, i'm not sure what makes some guys better than others. Bowman coached the: Dynasty Era Habs in the 70's with way less competition and Montreal was a powerhouse, the 92 Penguins with Mario f***ing Lemieux on that super team, and some of the best teams ever assembled in with the Wings in a pre-cap era.

Does he win the Cups in 94/95 coaching the Chicago Blackhawks instead of the Wings? Does he win in 98 coaching the Blues?

I never thought Cooper to be a particularly impressive coach, actually found him to be quite arrogant and obnoxious more often than not. He's got two Cups behind two stacked teams over the salary cap. When the roster dwindled in 2022 the Lightning got smoked by a much superior Avs team. What does that mean for Cooper?

Trotz could never get the Preds past the best teams in the West, all of a sudden he goes to Washington and they win a Cup. I never thought Laviolette to be a particularly good coach either. The Hawks beat his Flyers in 2010 and Preds in 2015, yet in 2017 as the Hawks roster thinned way the hell out and the Preds were rolling they swept chicago and embarassed Quenville. Does that make Laviolette a great coach?

IDK it seems very, very, very tied to how strong of a team you have in front of you as well as your ability to not get in the way of the roster you're coaching.
 
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