Hoochi Papa
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Value of: What would it cost to unload Gallagher?
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The kid is the heart and soul of that crappy team.
They won’t be better if they get rid of him.
They won’t be better if they get rid of him.
50% retained you should be able to get something.
Maybe a 2nd rounder + a decent prospect? (Decent = 7.0B-7.5B) on the old Hockey's Future rankings)
Maybe a 2nd rounder + a decent prospect? (Decent = 7.0B-7.5B) on the old Hockey's Future rankings)
Sweetpotato
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It'll take a ton retained or the swap of a contract that's just as bad. No chance they retain the necessary amount for that long so unless anyone can think of a change of scenery type hockey trade I can't see a match with anyone.
Shad
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No point paying to dump him yet. We don’t need the cap yet. May as well burn some years off the contract and if we are lucky he will rebound.
Larry Hanson
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The Habs should be rebuilding for a couple of years, probably best to just ride it out for awhile.
sergejean
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No need to move him unless somehow he becomes a toxic leader.
We're finally committed to a rebuild and we should pick top 5 again in 2023 ans top 10 in 2024, injecting much needed pure talent in the process.
Now is not the time to waste assets to get rid of contracts.
We're finally committed to a rebuild and we should pick top 5 again in 2023 ans top 10 in 2024, injecting much needed pure talent in the process.
Now is not the time to waste assets to get rid of contracts.
Hoochi Papa
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He's good for the tank and for that purpose there's no rush to unload him yet. There's a risk that his awful form won't change though, which will make him impossible to trade, even with retainment. And there are plenty of seasons left in that contract. I'd rather act prematurely with this one. Buyout will handcuff Montréal for years if it's done after 2023-2024.
sergejean
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You can't just have a bunch of young players even when rebuilding. Gally can be the respected veteran and contribute to the development of our future young core. In 4 years he'll just have what, 2 years left to his contract? If that becomes a problem, we can then consider paying for moving him.
I get your point but I don't feel we should pay anything for the only purpose of getting rid of his contract. Now, if a crazy gm comes in and wants to make a hockey trade, then of course you have to take that opportunity. I just don't see who would be crazy enough to trade for him unless a similar undesirable contract comes MTL way.
Hoochi Papa
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Playwise someone else would contribute more than Gallagher who could soon become a black hole in offense. His intangibles and veteran presence is not enough. Of course there's always AHL but I have a feeling that Montréal will honour him too much to do that.
Of course it will always depend on price. I'm interested to know how other fanbases view his albatross contract. All in all it's well build suicide pill to swallow - whatever you do with it, it's going to sting for a long time.
Maybe we make a big splash and use him as a trade piece for Jeff Skinner. How about that one, could we build around it?
mouser
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Gallagher’s contract has very negative value right now.
Given Montreal’s current competitive status I don’t see how it would make any sense for the Habs to pay the price required to move hIm. Ride it out for the next season+, see where the team and Gallagher’s performance go In future seasons.
Given Montreal’s current competitive status I don’t see how it would make any sense for the Habs to pay the price required to move hIm. Ride it out for the next season+, see where the team and Gallagher’s performance go In future seasons.
Paralyzer008
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Considering I think Gallagher can rebound, trade him at 50% retained to the Oilers, we'll gladly take him!
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Why though? Shouldn't they focus on rebuilding the team?
Seems dumb to pay a premium to dump players when you're not going to be competitive for a few years at least.
Seems dumb to pay a premium to dump players when you're not going to be competitive for a few years at least.
Habs Halifax
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We are not going to pay a premium to move Gallagher. He wants to stay and he's a good leader in the room. He's going to have a long off season to train and work on his body (1st one is over 2 years) and I expect some level of rebound from him next year.
If Gallagher is ever traded in the next year or two, it's contract for contract. Think Voracek for Atkinson type trade.
Agreed. This will be Gallagher's first long off season in over 2 years and he's got time to train and work on his body. I expect some level of rebound but not 30 goals rebound. Maybe 15-20 goals and 40-50 pts type rebound. Still not worth his contract but the Habs are not going to have a complete roster of age 25 and under during our rebuild.
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Gallagher is getting $9M in 2024-2025. That's how brutal that contract is. Didn't even frontload it properly.
I can't see a team trade for Gallagher before the end of the 1st month next season.
We don't really know if he is done or just a really bad season.
But with all injury he had we need to wait to see if he's able to play a good level again.
We don't really know if he is done or just a really bad season.
But with all injury he had we need to wait to see if he's able to play a good level again.
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To be clear, there is zero indication Montreal even wants to move Gallagher. Like at all. There's also a deal of evidence that Gallagher was just extremely snakebit/dealing with injuries (its crazy that a player goes from being one of the top 5v5 goal scorers for 5 seasons to one 5v5 goal when the underlying numbers are still there).
The contract is bad, but Montreal is rebuilding and outside of temper tantrums from fans, theres no reason to move him.
The contract is bad, but Montreal is rebuilding and outside of temper tantrums from fans, theres no reason to move him.
I’m trying to be peaceful and genuinely asking, what seems to be the issue? Is he worn down and slow? Has he lost all hustle? Perhaps he’s just not motivated or disinterested?
It feels like just yesterday Montreal fans on here were valuing him as their top forward and claiming that they wouldn’t trade him for Nylander straight up. I’m genuinely curious how the opinion has changed this much as while his numbers are obviously declining, the whole team is struggling so it doesn’t seem like a sure thing it’s not a down year and that he won’t rebound and have some value to Montreal or another team.
It feels like just yesterday Montreal fans on here were valuing him as their top forward and claiming that they wouldn’t trade him for Nylander straight up. I’m genuinely curious how the opinion has changed this much as while his numbers are obviously declining, the whole team is struggling so it doesn’t seem like a sure thing it’s not a down year and that he won’t rebound and have some value to Montreal or another team.
Djp
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The contract was bad before the ink dried
the next 4 yrs his actual pay is above the cap hit.
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