What to do with Matt Greene

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Look what happened to Aaron Miller after a few solid years with the Kings. Was terrific at blocking shots and taking the body, which is what Greene is known for as well, but after a while, that physicality takes a toll on the players' body and it shows.

Greene was never fast, but he appears to be a step slower, and all the time missed due to injuries does not do him any favors.

I'm sure it's a tough decision for Lombardi considering all that Greene has done in his time here, serving as an alternate captain, being a big vocal leader on the team.
 
Aaron Miller was in his mid 30s in his last days as a king, Greene is only 30. He can still be effective, but like I've mentioned previously, I'd like to see him lose 10-15 lbs in the offseason.
 
Greene will get more money elsewhere. The fact that his wife is from LA won't likely make a difference because this is his time to cash in on a decent contract.
 
Very good point. The market is saturated with similar, younger players--the question will be will another team overpay for a gritty vet?

I think many of us are also forgetting something related to your second point--Mitchell didn't play hockey last year. At all. So for this to be his 'comeback' season, he's been great. I'd love to see how he looks after this summer with some conditioning too. Same with Greene, really. We can't underestimate how hard it is to come back from injuries.

But we also can't understestimate how these old vets can be more prone to injury. The Kings are better off signing similar players that are younger or not as prone to injury. Sure they might not be a big difference but if we can get younger healthier players then I'm all for it
 
But we also can't understestimate how these old vets can be more prone to injury. The Kings are better off signing similar players that are younger or not as prone to injury. Sure they might not be a big difference but if we can get younger healthier players then I'm all for it

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree...but it's not like Matt Greene is 38. He's not even on the wrong side of 30 IIRC.
 
Don't get me wrong, I fully agree...but it's not like Matt Greene is 38. He's not even on the wrong side of 30 IIRC.

Don't get me wrong, I know, his age isn't a big deal but we can't pretend like he hasn't significantly slowed down, and all these years bizarre injuries sort of indicates how he's slowed down. It's an anomaly.
 
I rather keep Matt Greene, realistically speaking.
--More cap-friendly
--Can polish Brayden McNabb how to integrate grit with the latter's speed
--Still complements a red line with Stoll

Just my impressions.

One thing I forgot to add earlier: he's younger than Willie Mitchell.
 
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Why wasn't Greene traded then, I hate seeing players just walk? Not the best asset management with him if that's the case. Maybe there is something going on, hope he gets signed. Guys a warrior who stops pucks with his face.
 
Why wasn't Greene traded then, I hate seeing players just walk? Not the best asset management with him if that's the case. Maybe there is something going on, hope he gets signed. Guys a warrior who stops pucks with his face.

Cause you don't trade the great depth you have going into the playoffs you never know when you will need it. If you traded him and an injury happens to one of the top six d-men then your looking pretty dumb.
 
I am sitting on the fence regarding MG.

I hope that we can see a big improvement in his overall health and have him ready to step in if needed for the playoffs. After that I think he has given us more then we could ever have hoped for from him and if he wants to re-sign at a discounted rate to stay with the team then I would have to give that some serious consideration providing he has fully recovered and found his game again. If not I hope he gets a good payday and ends up playing for a team that sees the benefit of his experience and what a great add he is to a locker room.

He knows the game really well too and I would like to see him back in our org as a coach when he hangs them up.
 
If you need two physical defensemen, Mitchell and Regehr are not enough. It's a long season and a demanding position. A third guy in addition to them barely qualifies as "depth" considering how often Mitchell gets injured. And I'm not sure exactly what the difference was between Regehr's start of the season and the rest of but it's more than plausible that someone with Regehr's skill set could be completely overwhelmed by a minor injury that an elite player would just play through without anyone noticing.

It doesn't have to be Greene but it's a question of if there is better on the market and if he wants term, not of if the team is better off without him.
 
I personally think he's looked very good this season via the eye test even if the stats say otherwise. Conversely, much of this board thought Muzzin looked awful when the stats said otherwise. So I take it with a grain of salt.

oh Muffin. He is an interesting one. He does absolutely everything you want from a dman in terms of controlling the play, keeping it away from your net, putting up points at the other end. The problem is that he makes glaringly bad bonehead plays, that completely negate all his good work. Now if he was on the 3rd line, these plays wouldn't bother us so much, but paired with Doughty, he is against top competition, who makes his mistakes look even worse than they are, and punish him harder for it
 
Matt, thanks for the Stanley, whether you stay or leave, you won't be forgotten,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKf3fuI9Hk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaTu7mPQrA

These are still the greatest things Greene has ever done;


He just turns around and absolutely kills Carter with a cross check. Devils had to think twice about going to the net when he was there for the rest of the series. 2 mins well worth it.

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And this! Oh. My. God. This. Just no-sells a puck to the face and celebrates a win like nothing happened.
 
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He's worth more to us now and let's get real, he wouldn't have fetched that much.

I totally agree hes worth more to us and shouldn't have been traded due to depth issues. I do however disagree he wouldn't get much I think he would have got at least what regher got in the last deadline dead. I'm not sure what you think of 2 seconds but i think that is a good return to me.
 
Matt Greene becomes a UFA at the end of this season. He has been a healthy scratch a lot as of late, something like 12 games in a row, as well as oft injured. This year his cap hit is right around $2,950,000. What to do with him? do we:
A) Resign him at his current price.
B) Try to resign him for a home town discount
C) Let him walk at the end of the season.

Now I like Matt Greene, and I like the physicality he brings to the team. but can we afford him. Even with the cap going up we also have Willie Mitchell, Trevor Lewis, Marian Gaborik, and Colin Fraser as UFA's and Dwight King is a RFA as is Linden vey. So what to do. What are your opinions on this.

It's a tough call. I'd be leaning toward letting Greene go at this point, but as others have said we should also factor in what Mitchell is doing too.

That said, maybe letting both go and signing Orpik (if we can) and promoting McNabb would work best. DL's best UFA pickups by far have been stay at home defensemen like Mitchell and Scuderi. If he feels he can get a good one in UFA I trust him.

Greene also has reasons to stay, but I'd imagine being a healthy scratch for 12 games has soured him on the idea of resigning without testing the market as well. I think in the end the decision to leave will be more Greene's than LA's. If both Mitchell and Greene leave, I think we can survive it though.

As for our other UFA's to be, I'd be letting Fraser walk and at this point I doubt very much he's in the plans for next year in any way, shape or form. Gaborik would depend on how many years he wants, but if it's anything more than two years he can walk, and ideally just a one year deal would be best. Trevor Lewis would need to resign at his current salary or less or I'd let him go too. I like him, but his offense does not translate to his production at all. To have just 11 points in 67 games doesn't warrant a raise.

You reup with both King and vey though. I doubt Vey gets a big salary increase, likely just a 10% raise if that. King is likely looking at a 3 year, $4.5 million dollar deal though.

Take a look at the market, then decide.

Matt Greene won't command over 2.5 million. Wife is from LA.

Word is EDM has no interest in him, according to beat writers.

Greene is probably staying in LA at a reduced cost. One year deal probably at around 1.8-2.0 million.

No team is going to offer Greene a big contract, he has to prove he can stay healthy and still play in this league.

That might be true, but if we are only offering Greene a $1 million pay cut, what's the incentive to resign with LA? His wife being from LA won't stop him from moving likely at that level of a pay cut. He'd test the market before resigning in LA at that price and with the cap going up he'll likely have several suitors.
 
The problem is not Greene. He is a role player with significant contributions to his name who is currently looks overpaid because of his bad season this year. Matt may still have several good seasons ahead of him.

The real problem is Regher. He's too slow, too old and paid too much. However if we win the Cup, it may wind up that Regher retires. If that happens our problems are solved. We can re-sign both Greene and probably Mitchell for less, add the cap going up to the amounts saved and after Gabby re-signs we'll have enough to sign a decent UFA defenseman.
 
Next year the D is looking like
Muzzin/Doughty
Regehr/Voynov
Martinez/Greene
McNabb


I have to think that DL will go after at least one UFA D (Orpik), which based off current matches would push the line up to something like
Orpik,Muzzin/Doughty
Regehr/Voynov
Orpik,Muzzin/Martinez
McNabb

A lot of bringing Greene back will depend on what happens in the UFA market. Also how much cap is left after signing Gaborik, Brown's raise. Lewis' new 2M contract (ugh)... Well that and Greene getting his game back... 2+M for a 7th D isn't going to fly with the cap.
 

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