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What to do with Iafallo

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Kurrilino said:
He has to play with Carter ans AA.
Carter is a lost case. As soon as he gets the puck, he turns it over to the opponent.
AA is a pug hog who doesn't, know how to pass or play with other players.
Not exactly an environment to thrive for a rookie. Consider that and his point output looks like a miracle.
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That's just wrong. AA could have easily had 2 more assists last night with the plays he set up. He's far from a puck hog.

Vilardi should be able to hit those guys in stride.
And for a few games, that line looked good.
But Vilardi's problems are Vilardi's.
I loved the kid and wished the Wings would have drafted him.
But his skating is an issue. Especially at center ice.
And with Byfield and Turcotte coming, and Anderson-Dolan, there's no reason to force him as a center.
I'd reunite that line with Vilardi on wing.
Vilardi-AA-Carter.
Honestly, though, I think Vilardi might be better off on on a cycling line, as wing to Anderson-Dolan and Moore, or Anderson-Dolan and Grundstrom.

Or, if Iaffallo is traded, with Brown and Kopitar.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
It's like Muzzin.

NO way we give up even a 1st for a mediocre #3-#4 dman

1 week passes

lol stupid LA, "Is Muzzin the best defensive dman in the league?"

Then everyone here will be bitching he's scoring 50-60 points for the Canes and lamenting the weird hole at LA's #1 LW

Book it now beacause I'm just going to copy-and-paste "i f***ing told you so" hundreds of times
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Yafallo never earned first line role,was just given it after the Stanley Cup talent started to come apart. Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal otherwise take a hike
 
MBH said:
That's just wrong. AA could have easily had 2 more assists last night with the plays he set up. He's far from a puck hog.

Vilardi should be able to hit those guys in stride.
And for a few games, that line looked good.
But Vilardi's problems are Vilardi's.
I loved the kid and wished the Wings would have drafted him.
But his skating is an issue. Especially at center ice.
And with Byfield and Turcotte coming, and Anderson-Dolan, there's no reason to force him as a center.
I'd reunite that line with Vilardi on wing.
Vilardi-AA-Carter.
Honestly, though, I think Vilardi might be better off on on a cycling line, as wing to Anderson-Dolan and Moore, or Anderson-Dolan and Grundstrom.

Or, if Iaffallo is traded, with Brown and Kopitar.
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I too think AA is a puck hog but I love it.

We NEED someone on this team--especially in the middle six--who WANTS the puck and thrives with it. It's not like he doesn't know how to make plays, he just likes being the focal point, and after years of passive 'aw shucks' 'good teammates' it's nice to have a productively selfish player.
 
MBH said:
That's just wrong. AA could have easily had 2 more assists last night with the plays he set up. He's far from a puck hog.

Vilardi should be able to hit those guys in stride.
And for a few games, that line looked good.
But Vilardi's problems are Vilardi's.
I loved the kid and wished the Wings would have drafted him.
But his skating is an issue. Especially at center ice.
And with Byfield and Turcotte coming, and Anderson-Dolan, there's no reason to force him as a center.
I'd reunite that line with Vilardi on wing.
Vilardi-AA-Carter.
Honestly, though, I think Vilardi might be better off on on a cycling line, as wing to Anderson-Dolan and Moore, or Anderson-Dolan and Grundstrom.

Or, if Iaffallo is traded, with Brown and Kopitar.
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I've gone on record a million times saying Vilardi is not a centre! Unfortunately he's not strong enough to play the wing either. Use him a bait for Seattle to stay away from our other youngsters...then let the Kraken select Old man Brown and his new found scoring(steroid induced I'm sure)
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I too think AA is a puck hog but I love it.

We NEED someone on this team--especially in the middle six--who WANTS the puck and thrives with it. It's not like he doesn't know how to make plays, he just likes being the focal point, and after years of passive 'aw shucks' 'good teammates' it's nice to have a productively selfish player.
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To me, a puck hog is someone who hogs the puck to the detriment of his team.
Some guys want/need the puck. That's fine.
Puck hogs, to me, are guys who pass up good opportunities to set up teammates to try low-percentage individual plays.
If anything, I've seen AA do the opposite - passing up decent individual looks to force passes that aren't there.
AA did the same thing in the bubble last year, promoted too Drai's line. Deferred to them too much instead of playing his game, and it didn't work.
 
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andys said:
Yafallo never earned first line role,was just given it after the Stanley Cup talent started to come apart. Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal otherwise take a hike
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He earned it in training camp and no one has come to take it from him.

Find me a roster player not named Kempe who has shown anything worth being up there.

I'd argue only Kempe has a case for an extended look.

I'd LIKE to see Vilardi there, but looks like they're focused on his development. I'd like to see Grundstrom get a shot, but if anyone thinks Kempe is inconsistent, he's Lidstrom compared to Tonka. JAD/Moore may have 'earned' it, but we need JAD on the lower lines and Moore would drive everyone bonkers up there.

I think Turcotte gets a look there later on but I think ultimately Vilardi moves to wing, don't think he's fast enough for the Kopitar line, that's a lot of beef but not a lot of skating.
 
andys said:
I've gone on record a million times saying Vilardi is not a centre! Unfortunately he's not strong enough to play the wing either. Use him a bait for Seattle to stay away from our other youngsters...then let the Kraken select Old man Brown and his new found scoring(steroid induced I'm sure)
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Vilardi is still a kid, he's a monster on the wall already, imagine when he's actually got a few pro seasons and man strength. He's already got the Corey Perry stuff. Remember this is a dude who was out of the sport for a year and a half for all intents and purposes, this is essentially his 'real' rookie year.


MBH said:
To me, a puck hog is someone who hogs the puck to the detriment of his team.
Some guys want/need the puck. That's fine.
Puck hogs, to me, are guys who pass up good opportunities to set up teammates to try low-percentage individual plays.
If anything, I've seen AA do the opposite - passing up decent individual looks to force passes that aren't there.
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You're absolutely right. I definitely mean it as a term of endearment. I appreciate that it doesn't come off that way.
 
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Kings should trade Yafallo to Buffalo for T Hall! Of course the Kings would have to kick a bunch of other players and it would have to be a a sign and trade deal
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
He earned it in training camp and no one has come to take it from him.

Find me a roster player not named Kempe who has shown anything worth being up there.

I'd argue only Kempe has a case for an extended look.

I'd LIKE to see Vilardi there, but looks like they're focused on his development. I'd like to see Grundstrom get a shot, but if anyone thinks Kempe is inconsistent, he's Lidstrom compared to Tonka. JAD/Moore may have 'earned' it, but we need JAD on the lower lines and Moore would drive everyone bonkers up there.

I think Turcotte gets a look there later on but I think ultimately Vilardi moves to wing, don't think he's fast enough for the Kopitar line, that's a lot of beef but not a lot of skating.
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Personally I like Kempe with Kopi along with Turcotte,Byfield,Grundstrom and Lias too! Anyone except Yafallo who probably thinks he's better than he is...he's a decent player signed out of college when the Kings were floundering and had no draft choices to speak of...I get the impression the Kings will sign him and be burned in a 2-3 years time when he can't keep up with the speed of the game,let along the skill of it!
 
LAKings88 said:
Hall will want 8-10 million based on past accomplishments. Isn’t he 30 already?
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Hall is one thing Yafallo never will be a former MVP, goal scorer and playmaker! Don't think the Kings will trade for Taylor but he is the type of talent the Kings need/want at numero uno LW not Yafallo!!!
 
Herby said:
I'm not really concerned with Vilardi's point production. The Kings have been an offensive black hole since the end of the Palffy/Robitaille era, even through their glory years there were regular season stretches where the team couldn't score. So it's hard to judge anyone based on offensive statistics.

I am more concerned with the skating (major major issue) as well as the ability to play C effectively in the NHL (that will probably come with time).
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really hoping being healthy and concentrating on strength training and flexibility helps his skating and endurance going forward. I think he is behind developmental wise because of the injuries. Even if he is a 99 he hasn’t had the time in the gym, on the ice etc as the rest of his peers.
 
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andys said:
Hall is one thing Yafallo never will be a former MVP, goal scorer and playmaker! Don't think the Kings will trade for Taylor but he is the type of talent the Kings need/want at numero uno LW not Yafallo!!!
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Isn't that's what the Sabres said about Eichel - that he needed that kind of winger.

I still think Iafallo is the kind of player that helps Kopitar play better. He's got a knack for coming up with the puck. I'd rather find a replacement for Brown on the other wing - than have to find a replacement for Iafallo AND Brown (soon). Kopitar's Points per game increased when Iafallo took a spot on his wing.
 
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Inner Turbulence said:
Isn't that's what the Sabres said about Eichel - that he needed that kind of winger.

I still think Iafallo is the kind of player that helps Kopitar play better. He's got a knack for coming up with the puck. I'd rather find a replacement for Brown on the other wing - than have to find a replacement for Iafallo AND Brown (soon). Kopitar's Points per game increased when Iafallo took a spot on his wing.
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You lost me at Yafallo helps Kopi play better...without Kopi-Star, Yafallo's a bum!!!
 
andys said:
You lost me at Yafallo helps Kopi play better...without Kopi-Star, Yafallo's a bum!!!
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Kinda' figured you'd say that
Iafallo has a knack for coming up with the puck in the offensive zone and it helps give Kopitar more time on the puck in the zone. Look at Kopitar's output the last 4 seasons (with Iafallo) and compare it to the previous years .... 1-2-3-4 years ... whatever you want.

If Iafallo is a complete bum, shouldn't it be the opposite ? Hasn't been the case.
 
andys said:
Yafallo never earned first line role,was just given it after the Stanley Cup talent started to come apart. Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal otherwise take a hike
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That's not how it works in business if you have negotiated deals. It's a supply and demand issue and regardless of how you feel about him, other GM's will look at it through a business lens with no emotion. Iafallo is going to get paid. It's not a Sellers Market for guys like him and the league doesn't view him as a pile of trash.

Also, what is it with the names like Yafallo and Kopi-Star?
 
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funky said:
really hoping being healthy and concentrating on strength training and flexibility helps his skating and endurance going forward. I think he is behind developmental wise because of the injuries. Even if he is a 99 he hasn’t had the time in the gym, on the ice etc as the rest of his peers.
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Moving forward the Kings best Centres are Kopi,JAD,Byfield,Kupari and Turcotte,everybody else can pound sand or play the Wing
 
AzKing said:
That's not how it works in business if you have negotiated deals. It's a supply and demand issue and regardless of how you feel about him, other GM's will look at it through a business lens with no emotion. Iafallo is going to get paid. It's not a Sellers Market for guys like him and the league doesn't view him as a pile of trash.

Also, what is it with the names like Yafallo and Kopi-Star?
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Kopi is our lone Star forward and Yafallo is pronounced Yafallo...not I a fall o! I never said Yafallo was trash only a 3rd liner on a Stanley Cup contender/Winner!
 
Inner Turbulence said:
Kinda' figured you'd say that
Iafallo has a knack for coming up with the puck in the offensive zone and it helps give Kopitar more time on the puck in the zone. Look at Kopitar's output the last 4 seasons (with Iafallo) and compare it to the previous years .... 1-2-3-4 years ... whatever you want.

If Iafallo is a complete bum, shouldn't it be the opposite ? Hasn't been the case.
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Kopi has made Brown and Yafallo...Kopi did not make the veteran Gaborik...soon I will call Dusty Bottoms and Yafallo...the coattails twins!!!
 
Inner Turbulence said:
Isn't that's what the Sabres said about Eichel - that he needed that kind of winger.

I still think Iafallo is the kind of player that helps Kopitar play better. He's got a knack for coming up with the puck. I'd rather find a replacement for Brown on the other wing - than have to find a replacement for Iafallo AND Brown (soon). Kopitar's Points per game increased when Iafallo took a spot on his wing.
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Its timed with the end of the low-event Sutter-via-Murray era, but Iafallo is most certainly a benefit to Kopitar. There are still folks who don't recognize how unique a player Kopitar is and how difficult it is to play on a first line that doesn't prioritize offense over two way play.

Nobody produces huge numbers with Kopitar, yet a portion of the fan base seems to think its the wingers at fault. Its not even a "fault" situation. Somebody laughably called Kopitar an "elite playmaker" the other day, which is absurd and uneducated. Kopitar is a possession-based center who smartly creates offense as the play develops around him, he doesn't actively create on his own. Top level wingers don't, won't and haven't produced "elite" offense with Kopitar because they don't have those opportunities.

A 60 point left winger is borderline top 10 production from that spot. The difference between 50 and 60 points is one goal and one assist every 16 games. Its minimal, and that includes league-wide players from a variety of systems with varying talents at center.

Iafallo is very much a top line winger, and anyone who suggests that the Kings could do better from the upcoming UFA market, that he would produce less elsewhere or is a third liner is frankly speaking out of their ass. Its pure speculation. Iafallo IS a top liner. He IS a top 30 LW in production. He IS helping Kopitar produce career level numbers. He IS improving.

Pay him what he is worth: $20 million for 4 years. Don't lose a productive player who is well liked and can insulate younger players breaking in. They have PLENTY of cap space and won't improve upon him until a kid is ready, which isn't yet, and even then he won't prohibit anybody's path tactically or financially.
 
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andys said:
Yafallo never earned first line role,was just given it after the Stanley Cup talent started to come apart. Sign him to a 1 year prove it deal otherwise take a hike
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Iafallo was what jumpstarted the first line. He was the spark the first season he joined the Kings. He's also still the most tenacious puck retriever on the first line who has an excellent ability to strip and pressure the defense into turnovers. You're selling Iafallo extremely short, Kopitar wouldn't be producing as much with anyone else in Iafallos spot. If Iafallo was a bad fit on the first line, he wouldn't be glued to it like he is. Your issue with Iafallo is not in the realm of reasoning.

Iafallo is worth a first and I wouldn't trade him for anything less because it wouldn't be worth it.

He has a decent finish, good speed, good hands, excellent puck retrieval, and good offensive IQ and positioning. His hands are good, and so is his vision when you look at the plays he's able to create.

You might not see it in his production but Brown is always in front of the net while Kopitar is too slow to retrieve pucks. Who do you think is doing it? You can attribute a good amount of the success of the first line as direct and indirect presence of Iafallo.
 
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I don't see why we would trade Iafallo for a late-1st rounder. The odds of that 1st rounder becoming Iafallo is less than 15% or so. Of course, if there is no realistic deal on the table to sign Iafallo that is a different story. But if there is a reasonable deal for short term, I don't see why you would trade him.
 
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