Value of: What to do with Dmitry Orlov

[Caps4Cups17]

Orlov is a left handed defenceman with a cannon shot. Plays a physical game and plays at a high tempo but, has trouble in his own zone and tends to be a defensive liability at times. He is still unsigned and the Caps have around 2-3 million in space to sign him. There have been reports that a KHL team reached out to him in case he does not reach a deal with Washington. What do the Caps do? What is Orlov worth if a contract and term can not be met?

-Let him walk and free up some cap space

-Swap with another team for a offensive defenceman

-Sign him for a 1 year deal and possibly have Vegas pick him up in the offseason

Note: Caps GM and Trotz really want to keep Orlov in Washington

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[Calgareee]

Would expect a 2 year deal at 2.5-3 (similar to Ceci's contract if I'm not mistaken). I'm not sure on Washingtons expansion elegibility for D men so maybe they go with a one year deal so they don't have to protect him?

 

[hockeykicker]

he is going to sign, everyone knows this. the ball is in the caps court because they have the leverage





they wouldnt be saying that if they didnt think it would be done soon

 

[Hunter368]

We are his contract demands

 

[AtNightWeFly]

Dima, don't leave us.

 

[Nordic*]

Edmonton could use a pp specialist.

 

[hockeykicker]

We are his contract demands

there are none. seriously its strange, its been nothing going on or talked about that has been announced. just only talks about who he will be playing with

 

[Kshahdoo]

He didn't look that great at WHC, I mean his defensive game is atrocious. I don't know, why Caps fans (some of them at least) love him.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

there are none. seriously its strange, its been nothing going on or talked about that has been announced. just only talks about who he will be playing with

He will go to Dallas and Val will come to DC.

 

[hockeykicker]

He didn't look that great at WHC, I mean his defensive game is atrocious. I don't know, why Caps fans (some of them at least) love him.

so fans cant like an offensive defender?

 

[McHaNugYakEbNurDra]

he is going to sign, everyone knows this. the ball is in the caps court because they have the leverage

Agreed that he likely resigns, but as the OP points out, not a lot of cap room this year, and Kuznetsov. Alzner and Oshie contracts up next summer.....I assume they will be careful in signing him?

 

[trick9]

Edmonton could use a pp specialist.

Dmitri Orlov is furthest thing from that, really. He has never gotten much of a PP time, so it's a question mark whether he would be that effective PP player.

On the other hand, his 5-on-5 stats belong right at the top of all D's. He was tied 11th with Dustin Byfuglien in points per 60, with 1.24. He is not a top-pairing D (potential is there) because he plays easy minutes, but he's very effective on the ES, and gets very limited PP and PK time.

He stays or goes to the KHL. I assume he stays for a year, goes to Vegas, and starts the '17-'18 season in their top-pairing.

 

[Revelation]

Dmitri Orlov is furthest thing from that, really. He has never gotten much of a PP time, so it's a question mark whether he would be that effective PP player.

On the other hand, his 5-on-5 stats belong right at the top of all D's. He was tied 11th with Dustin Byfuglien in points per 60, with 1.24. He is not a top-pairing D (potential is there) because he plays easy minutes, but he's very effective on the ES, and gets very limited PP and PK time.

He stays or goes to the KHL. I assume he stays for a year, goes to Vegas, and starts the '17-'18 season in their top-pairing.

He pretty much plays as a PPQB in the offensive zone at even strength. Gets the puck up high and either gets it through with his excellent shot, distributes it or gets into seams and drives the net like with that goal against LA.

If the caps didn't have a righty centric distribution scheme (RHD to OV) he'd probably be on the top unit. They'd also probably be dynamic enough for the PP not to get shut down every spring.

 

[Taytro]

Edmonton could use a pp specialist.

Not at LD they cant.

 

[Carlzner]

He didn't look that great at WHC, I mean his defensive game is atrocious. I don't know, why Caps fans (some of them at least) love him.

I don't. Loved him as a promising prospect and young player but at this point I don't see the point of retaining him when we'll likely lose him to expansion. He's no better than a #5 right now and he's extremely risky for a cup contender to put on the ice.

 

[Revelation]

Not at LD they cant.

He's more comfortable at RD

 

[McSuper]

What would the cost be for Edmonton to get him ? We could send a LHD back + something . I am just not sure of Washington needs or cap situation .

Any scouting reports on this guy ? Whats his upside ?

 

[Paradise*]

What are Washington's needs?

 

[txpd]

the caps cant get anything of value for him. they wont find a player that makes them better for him.

if they lose him after the season for nothing, its better than losing him for assets that likely become nothing without having the depth.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The Rangers will take him

 

[Revelation]

What would the cost be for Edmonton to get him ? We could send a LHD back + something . I am just not sure of Washington needs or cap situation .

Any scouting reports on this guy ? Whats his upside ?

If you guys could take Orpik (he'd probably be of a positive value in a mentorship role, for real he cracks down on lackadaisical teammate defensemen hard and would probably have Ference doing burpees on the bench mid game) I'd add in Orlov as a sweetener and get back roleplayers/mid rounders/etc.

If it's just Orlov something around Davidson maybe, a more two way LD (if I have him scouted correctly).

His upside is a physical mobile #2/3 with all the offensive tools you could ask for. Russian Keith Ballard maybe (when he was good and coveted), probably comparable to Voynov's. At least it was #2 before his wrist injury when he was wrecking people with hipchecks left and right.

 

[Revelation]

the caps cant get anything of value for him. they wont find a player that makes them better for him.

if they lose him after the season for nothing, its better than losing him for assets that likely become nothing without having the depth.

They've had that philosophy since the rebuild and all it did was keep the team mediocre and bound to the 2nd round. Yeah lets just always lose every player we have for nothing even when it's clear they're moving on instead of trying to get assets in a league where every inch in terms of resources counts. Those pens really screwed up trading Jordan Staal, should have let him walk as a UFA a year later.

 

[Tretyak 20]

The Devils could certainly be interested if it starts looking like he won't sign. Not sure what it would take to get a deal done, though. Picks/prospects?

 

[goonybird]

washington doesn't need much of anything except cap space.

Someone probably takes Orpik @ 50% for some scrub and Orlov takes Orpik's place

 

[AtNightWeFly]

What are Washington's needs?

Better luck.