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JoeIsAStud said:
How many years, 4 more years, I am fine. 5 more years is a stretch, but I'd probably take it. I won't go more than 5

Not gonna happen
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this is a pretty major problem. lucic will get 7 years from someone on the open market, if he gets there. and certainly a raise on his current $6M (not warranted by his play, but he's not taking a pay cut, that's for sure). would he take less to stay in boston? i'd highly, highly doubt it. his agent has already broken the bank before he was worth that kind of money, so no reason why their camp would change course now.

looch says all the right things. he loves boston. he doesn't want to play anywhere else. but all that is lip service and when it comes down to it, the b's will have to pony up something close to 7x6.5 to retain him. i think this could turn out to be the toughest decision sweeney will be faced with in his GM career, and unfortunately it's his first major decision, and there are no easy answers.
 
neelynugs said:
this is a pretty major problem. lucic will get 7 years from someone on the open market, if he gets there. and certainly a raise on his current $6M (not warranted by his play, but he's not taking a pay cut, that's for sure). would he take less to stay in boston? i'd highly, highly doubt it. his agent has already broken the bank before he was worth that kind of money, so no reason why their camp would change course now.

looch says all the right things. he loves boston. he doesn't want to play anywhere else. but all that is lip service and when it comes down to it, the b's will have to pony up something close to 7x6.5 to retain him. i think this could turn out to be the toughest decision sweeney will be faced with in his GM career, and unfortunately it's his first major decision, and there are no easy answers.
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great post. I'm going with him unless bowled over. The onus will be clearly on him.

and in the end if Lucic plays well Boston will offer 6/42 or thereabouts and people will howl at the money and term

if he plays mediocre and walks people will say Boston should have traded him for deals for all we know a fan made up on a message board

I'd take the year with him and hope a hungry Lucic delivers the goods- but I would also listen to what anyone said if they approached me for him; I don't see how you cant listen and if the Willy Wonka ticket comes your way you take it.

He is the perfect player for Burke in Calgary with those kids dotting the top 6 and Burke wants to win and wants to make a stand to his best bud Chiarelli in Edmonton. I'd love to see what Burke would offer if he got hot on him.
 
DKH said:
I'm in. But its really very simple- I want more consistency and 20+ goals a season. I want him more vocal and more a leader- I would tell him that. Being a leader involves being more focused and engaged. I would have him wear the A either at home or on the road if Kelly does indeed go.

If Lucic is a 15 goal scorer who is inconsistent I don't want him

If Lucic is a 20+ goal scorer who brings leadership and consistency he is as Sweeney says a foundational player

Lucic needs to get his thought process together

If I am GM I don't look to deal him unless someone just hands me the Willy Wonka Gold ticket. Otherwise I have a talk with him and tell him with Campbell, Kelly, Paille gone I believe he can be more of a leader in the room, on the ice, and protect the kids.

I believe he can and will do it and therefore am not trading him.

I'll go one step further- when they move Kelly, they can keep Eriksson and Lucic and should.

Subtract Kelly and they can keep them all- I checked Generalfanager and they can do this and still sign McQuaid.
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Oh I like this post ! I too would put an "A" on Looch.
 
Ladyfan said:
Oh I like this post ! I too would put an "A" on Looch.
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Lucic doesn't always seem to have his head into the game and that is why so many here go nuts. He's a beast with sweet hands and strong hockey sense. He is better than he has shown.

He's 27 this month and its time to start being more active as a leader. The Bruins have lost several leaders since the 2011 team and its his time to step up. I believe a more focused and involved Lucic is a good thing. He needs to get his head more into the game.

I am not talking about fighting or even body checks, he needs to be more active. A guy with that size and hands playing with highly skilled linemates should be able to score 20 goals a season playing ever game with the flu.

I want him here but I want him here more engaged. He looked that way with Spooner and Pastrnak for many of the games. I think its all mental with this guy and he's not dumb at all, I think he's to content at times.
 
Why are you all pining away for a $6 million guy who didn't rise to the occasion when our season was on the line? And you want to give him the assistant captaincy no less. 2011 was four years ago. Just saying.
 
Wow! You don't give a guy an "A" in hopes to motivate him. You give a guy an "A" because he is doing it on his own and motivating others. Not sure what you see, but #17 is not "A" material. Three years ago he was super competitive trending toward a major leadership role. Now he is not. Hope we get a decent haul or he will be part of the economical and on ice problem for years to come.
 
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Ladyfan said:
Oh I like this post ! I too would put an "A" on Looch.
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A guy who has showed almost no leadership, consistent effort or resolve in well over a year? His reward...an 'A'? Wow.

Aside from "I really like him" I haven't seen one compelling argument as to why signing him long term would be a good move for the team.
 
PlayoffBeard365 said:
Wow! You don't give a guy an "A" in hopes to motivate him. You give a guy an "A" because he is doing it on his own and motivating others. Not sure what you see, but #17 is not "A" material. Three years ago he was super competitive trending toward a major leadership role. Now he is not. Hope we get a decent haul or he will be part of the economical and on ice problem for years to come.
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There have been times where Lucic was unquestionably leading this team on-ice, look back to the famous game 7 comeback against TO as a prime example, this guy does have leadership skills and I would love to see him wear the A. Bruins need to keep this guy, he can be a game-changer, others with far less value like Smith, Kelly and Erikkson should be going before ML.
 
SPLBRUIN said:
There have been times where Lucic was unquestionably leading this team on-ice, look back to the famous game 7 comeback against TO as a prime example, this guy does have leadership skills and I would love to see him wear the A. Bruins need to keep this guy, he can be a game-changer, others with far less value like Smith, Kelly and Erikkson should be going before ML.
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We have really noticed Looch stepping it up as a leader on the B's the last couple of years. As some here know we sit right next to the B's bench so we notice these things.

He did wear the "A" when some one was out so it isn't out of the question.
 
SPLBRUIN said:
There have been times where Lucic was unquestionably leading this team on-ice, look back to the famous game 7 comeback against TO as a prime example, this guy does have leadership skills and I would love to see him wear the A. Bruins need to keep this guy, he can be a game-changer, others with far less value like Smith, Kelly and Erikkson should be going before ML.
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Referencing a game from three years ago and saying the words "CAN be a game changer" is exactly my point. I know he can produce some and play in the big moment cuz I've seen him do it. But, pro sports is all about what have you done for me lately!?! The answer is not much.

Of course Smith and Kelly need to beat it. But overpaying #17 for six more years because he "could do this" or "has done that" is not making a sound choice for a team that needs goal scoring and players who are currently being game changers and producing on the regular.

As to 17s leadership. I don't sit near the bench but all I see is some yelling and chest thumpin from 17. That is not leadership. Saying "lets go boys", "we can do this, eh" etc is just being a vocal player.
 
Bruwinz37 said:
A guy who has showed almost no leadership, consistent effort or resolve in well over a year? His reward...an 'A'? Wow.

Aside from "I really like him" I haven't seen one compelling argument as to why signing him long term would be a good move for the team.
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I hate to agree but I do. Last year he was a far cry from the player I fell in love with. Feuding with komisarek, fighting any and everything, throwing big hits to change momentum.... Just playing with that fire. No fire last year. Maybe here and there... But just didn't have it. Not sure what to attribute it to but it was frustrating.

I'm very torn on what they should do with him. I'm in the trade krejci camp for the most part but it all depends on what the deals are out there and what the yield will be. I imagine Sweeney is getting some pretty interesting offers right about now. He just needs to find the best one and not pull a Thornton / Seguin deal.
 
Ladyfan said:
We have really noticed Looch stepping it up as a leader on the B's the last couple of years. As some here know we sit right next to the B's bench so we notice these things.

He did wear the "A" when some one was out so it isn't out of the question.
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He needs to lead with play on the ice not just talk on the bench

Lucic has trended too much towards all talk no walk over the last few years for my taste

Last time he played well was 13 playoffs IMO And even then he could have been a lot nastier
 
Ladyfan said:
We have really noticed Looch stepping it up as a leader on the B's the last couple of years. As some here know we sit right next to the B's bench so we notice these things.

He did wear the "A" when some one was out so it isn't out of the question.
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Please provide details of his amazing leadership besides just providing your seat numbers.
 
A lot of "ifs" and hopes when it comes to arguing to keep Lucic. That's not convincing at all. The arguments for trading him are stronger and that's what the team should do.
 
The arguments have been the same. He's overpaid and he's declining~

Not convincing at all. He's the scapegoat this year.
 
I'd rather sign Lucic long term and go down the tubes with him then deal him and watch him explode consistently in a different system .

He's the down low guy on his line skating I to the corners and then having to get all the way back. He has put up nice numbers in spite of a system that allows him less than 2 shots per game average , again he's a first, third and 4th lineLW according to his job description . He will get back to 25-50-200-100 no doubt in my mind . Who do you replace him with ? Two 3,5 mil per year guys? A 6 mil guy who s ores 28 a year and does nothing else ? Sweeney thankfully knows a looser more offensive system and faster linemates will help Lucic be the player he is . Thankfully he will be here for a long time .

You guys have the chia mentality he had with seguin . Would think we would learn by now .
 
My guess is he gets a 7 year contract and is a $6.5 million cap hit. I think he is a Bruin for the next four years and then he is traded.

It's fun to make $@*Â¥ up.
 
MioneRask134 said:
The arguments have been the same. He's overpaid and he's declining~

Not convincing at all. He's the scapegoat this year.
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Same seguin mentality that got us these quarters for a dollar .

Funny they say he's declining when everyone did , was a team wide problem . It's called an off season .

Scapegoat indeed . Especially when people ignore the amount of ice time he had with kelly , Griffith and a hobbled Krejci.
 
WBC8 said:
I'd rather sign Lucic long term and go down the tubes with him then deal him and watch him explode consistently in a different system .

He's the down low guy on his line skating I to the corners and then having to get all the way back. He has put up nice numbers in spite of a system that allows him less than 2 shots per game average , again he's a first, third and 4th lineLW according to his job description . He will get back to 25-50-200-100 no doubt in my mind . Who do you replace him with ? Two 3,5 mil per year guys? A 6 mil guy who s ores 28 a year and does nothing else ? Sweeney thankfully knows a looser more offensive system and faster linemates will help Lucic be the player he is . Thankfully he will be here for a long time .

You guys have the chia mentality he had with seguin . Would think we would learn by now .
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Comparing Lucic and Seguin isn't a very valid point at all. Seguin was a young stud who it was pretty damn obvious had lots of room for growth and hadn't yet touched his ceiling. He was also signed at the time of the trade. Lucic is a soon to be UFA expecting to cash in for more than he's worth on a team with cap issues. He also has already hit his peak, and potentially may be on the down swing. I'm not 100% convinced he is declining but it is certainly a possibility. Point is, we're talking about two vastly different scenarios. Trading Lucic for the right deal makes sense. Dealing Seguin was a completely boneheaded move that made no sense at all, even less when you factor in his return. I love Looch but you'd be dumb to not explore moving him.
 
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