What NHL teams do need full rebuild right now?

[jaywills1020]

Getting rid of Trouba and Goodrow with no retention was pretty great actually.

And how has that made the team better?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Yep, even though they are doing alright currently. If the goal is to become a serious contender they will need a full rebuild.

lol what did I just read.

 

[These Are The Days]

I think the Sabres are better off getting started. Keep Dahlin and Power. Trade everyone else and just pray to whatever you believe in McKenna is a Sabre in 2 years.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Getting rid of Trouba and Goodrow with no retention was pretty great actually.

Really playing better with them gone too

 

[Machinehead]

Really playing better with them gone too

Trouba was replaced by a bunch AHL guys in the short-term which we knew would be case.

I'm glad you're laughing at absolutely nothing tho. Must be fun.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Penguins
Bruins

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Those who need one are rebuilding. Pittsburgh can't rebuild with the players they have, neither can Boston or the Rangers.

 

[These Are The Days]

Really playing better with them gone too

The NYR were bad *WITH* Trouba and Goodrow wasn't fixing this. I love that gif but it doesnt apply here

 

[Mike Liut]

The Blues are in year 3 of a 5 year rebuild

 

[LuGBuG]

OP realizes how long some teams have been bad for? Last PO for:
Buf in 2011
Det in 2016
Ott in 2017
Chi in 2017 ( 2020 were 12th 6 points in back of Nash/Van who were tied for 8th at 78 points. Most likely would have missed if not for the play in)
Ana in 2018
SJ in 2019

You are not in for 4/5 years of pain. More like 7/8 years.

Ducks fan. Can confirm.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

The Blues are in year 3 of a 5 year rebuild

I love Blues rebuilds. They never bottom out and still accumulate talent. If I remember correctly that's how they won their cup...never truly were the worst, never created that loser culture.

 

[DJJones]

I think the Sabres are better off getting started. Keep Dahlin and Power. Trade everyone else and just pray to whatever you believe in McKenna is a Sabre in 2 years.

Ya lets have the team with the worst culture in the game throw away two more years for a long shot.

Then they'll act shocked when Dahlin wants out

 

[Rorschach]

Los Angeles, starting with a full front office clear.

 

[winnipegger]

I'm confused by what the Calgary flames are trying to accomplish.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Trouba was replaced by a bunch AHL guys in the short-term which we knew would be case.

I'm glad you're laughing at absolutely nothing tho. Must be fun.

The NYR were bad *WITH* Trouba and Goodrow wasn't fixing this. I love that gif but it doesnt apply here

They were 12-4-1 and coming off a presidents trophy before they wanted to implode the teams morale a month ago.

For a team who was already stuck in a weird gap of aging veterans and inexperienced players who haven’t lived up to their potential you’d think they would want to try and make the playoffs over settling for being a bubble team.

Especially since all it takes is one well timed Trouba headshot for New York to win a playoff series (just ask the Pens)

It’s a good thing Igor had Hank to mentor him, guy is probably already used to being let down by his gm

 

[HabsForHire]

I think Lebrun wrote recently that GMs watched what happened in Buffalo, Detroit and Ottawa vs Dallas and what's happened so far in Washington and feel smart retools are the way to go.
Obviously very risky and requires finding talent late in the first round and beyond - like Boston did.

I don't think any team really wants to do the full rebuild, but if i had to guess, the list would include Pittsburgh, Nashville, NYI - maybe Boston. I'm basing this on a lack of high end talent in the pipeline.

As some have mentioned, a rebuild takes minimum 5 year.

I'm glad hughes has stayed the course in Montreal. Habs need one more big draft + patience with the pieces coming up.

imo retooling is just spinning tires. if your core is aging you gotta go for top picks to build that core again

 

[Nineteen67]

We've seen the same 12-14 teams in the playoffs every year so I’m sure rebuilds are the way to go.

 

[Machinehead]

They were 12-4-1 and coming off a presidents trophy before they wanted to implode the teams morale a month ago.

For a team who was already stuck in a weird gap of aging veterans and inexperienced players who haven’t lived up to their potential you’d think they would want to try and make the playoffs over settling for being a bubble team.

Especially since all it takes is one well timed Trouba headshot for New York to win a playoff series (just ask the Pens)

It’s a good thing Igor had Hank to mentor him, guy is probably already used to being let down by his gm

It has nothing to do with morale.

You're clearly watching Colby getting his ass kicked instead of the Rangers because you no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Fatass]

imo retooling is just spinning tires. if your core is aging you gotta go for top picks to build that core again

I think if a club is lucky enough for struggling teams to trade them their star players (Vegas getting Stone and Eichel; Florida getting Reinhardt and Tkatchuk) and make really good UFA signings they can retool around existing core pieces.

 

[DJJones]

I'm confused by what the Calgary flames are trying to accomplish.

Ya if only our young players weren't as good. We'd have a better shot to get draft picks.

Or trade Andersson, that way in 4-5 years if we're really lucky we could get someone as good as Andersson.

And oh no, Huberdeau is looking good. Better retain on Kadri for 4 years to ruin his spirits

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Ya if only our young players weren't as good. We'd have a better shot to get draft picks.

Or trade Andersson, that way in 4-5 years if we're really lucky we could get someone as good as Andersson.

And oh no, Huberdeau is looking good. Better retain on Kadri for 4 years to ruin his spirits

I don't think finishing in 9th place year after year is conducive to any kind of success.

 

[DJJones]

I don't think finishing in 9th place year after year is conducive to any kind of success.

Again, we sold half of our team and have the most cap space in the league. What exactly are you suggesting.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Again, we sold half of our team and have the most cap space in the league. What exactly are you suggesting.

The problem with the perpetual 9th place finish is that it doesn't inspire management to make the necessary changes both on and off the ice. Obviously Kadri and Huberdeau aren't going anywhere but your team should still listen on offers for most of the "older than 25" crowd.

Even finishing in a wild card spot doesn't really do much for the team as they'll likely just get blown away by a contender and end up with a worse pick.

You can't stop players from trying of course, but I think the sooner you sell what you can the better.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Again, we sold half of our team and have the most cap space in the league. What exactly are you suggesting.

Columbus fan

 

[DJJones]

The problem with the perpetual 9th place finish is that it doesn't inspire management to make the necessary changes both on and off the ice. Obviously Kadri and Huberdeau aren't going anywhere but your team should still listen on offers for most of the "older than 25" crowd.

Even finishing in a wild card spot doesn't really do much for the team as they'll likely just get blown away by a contender and end up with a worse pick.

You can't stop players from trying of course, but I think the sooner you sell what you can the better.

We just sold half the team.... So ya, you want to trade Andersson. I explained in my first post why that's a terrible idea.

And what happens if that stunts the development of Bahl and Wolf as well? That's how you end up like Columbus or Buffalo. There's no scenario where we out suck the teams that are intentionally trying to lose and have no good players.