Speculation: What is this years big, surprise trade?

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Wait a second. Is this suggesting that the Rantanen one doesn't qualify? Or that anyone should expect even one other deal even close to that magnitude to happen for the rest of the pre-deadline season?

Yeah, I would guess nothing will come close.
 
Exactly. Weird thread - it already happened. And nothing will be as big or more surprising. Even in rants gets traded again we are all half expecting it.

Rant- necas trade could be the most surprising of like the decade.


How much is Toronto adding for that salary? It will be expensive.
Absolutely nothing. They retain on Marner.
 
You can’t just have 1 PP defenseman. What if he gets injured? Also he can’t exactly play the entire PP all game long

Most teams really only do (have one relevant pp defenseman). Most pps these days run their top unit 80+ out of every 120 seconds of power play time. While it’s a nice luxury to have someone useful for the second unit (most often your own youngster you’re grooming for an eventual pp1 role - see Luke Hughes) , it’s not the sort of things most teams go out and acquire as a need. Having Dobson play a third of each powerplay with Florida’s 5th to 8th best forwards isn’t likely worth the cost of acquiring Dobson.
 
Saw this a couple times now and it's starting to scare me.
As a Canes fan, I have seen plenty of "somehow Vegas", but I am failing to see what they could offer that's legitimate. Assuming he'd be open to a sign and trade, someone please show me someone worth getting Rantanen.
 
Most teams really only do (have one relevant pp defenseman). Most pps these days run their top unit 80+ out of every 120 seconds of power play time. While it’s a nice luxury to have someone useful for the second unit (most often your own youngster you’re grooming for an eventual pp1 role - see Luke Hughes) , it’s not the sort of things most teams go out and acquire as a need. Having Dobson play a third of each powerplay with Florida’s 5th to 8th best forwards isn’t likely worth the cost of acquiring Dobson.

...you think Ekblad plays PP1 over Dobson??...or did I miss something??... :dunno:
 
Kelly McCrimmon has been clearing the deck for something big, but his trades are often quite unusual, e.g., getting Eichel during the neck surgery controversy or taking Hertl coming off an injury. A big McCrimmon deal will come out of left field and probably nobody will foresee it.

McCrimmon might try to bring Marchessault back for the playoffs. Marchy really didn't work out that well in Nashville, Vegas wanted to re-sign him but Nashville offered an overpay that McCrimmon could now bail them out of, and Marchy would fit back in like a glove.

IMHO, a problem this season is that so many East teams are still arguably in the WC hunt that there may be fewer sellers than usual, plus, with the cap going up so much, teams might feel more comfortable in their ability to re-sign their quality FAs.
 
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Assuming we aren't counting Rantanen 1 and Rantanen 2 doesn't happen, I think Erik Karlsson could move for more than people are expecting. Right defense is a thin market and Dubas has shown he will retain salary and eat bad contracts to make a deal work.
 
Absolutely nothing. They retain on Marner.
So then why do the trade?

You are trading Mitch for rantanen - could be considered a wash. You are taking on rants salary and retaining Mitch’s salary to even it.

Why does Toronto do this? How does it help them for the trade deadline playoff push?
 
I like the idea of Vegas reacquiring Marchessault and somehow prying Vejmelka away from Utah a good deal more than overpaying for Rantanen if it doesn’t come with a signed contract (which it wouldn’t.)

It isn’t that Hill and Samsonov are exactly bad on their own; when they had Thompson the goalie crease allocation worked like an evenly balanced dryer - very few ‘thumps’ of prolonged shaky play. It’s different with Sammy; kind of like someone put a steel toed boot in there.

Not enough balance; too much thump.
 
The Canadiens, Canucks and Leafs have a three-way deal that ends all life on the HF servers for 36 hours.
Don't even need to go that big to crash HF.

They could trade 3 minor league players and just the build up would crash this place, then the insulting of HF servers would cause it to crash a 2nd time
 
So then why do the trade?

You are trading Mitch for rantanen - could be considered a wash. You are taking on rants salary and retaining Mitch’s salary to even it.

Why does Toronto do this? How does it help them for the trade deadline playoff push?
Apparently you've missed the past 8 playoffs whereby the Leafs, with Marner as a key player, have exactly 1 series victory. Also you seemed to have missed that the Leafs hired a new GM last season who is changing the style of the play (and player) to build around. Also you missed that the Leafs got a new coach this season and is changing the way the team plays. And finally, you have missed this:


It's as simple as the Leafs wanting to try something different to see if it works and if Rantanen isn't signing an extension in Carolina perhaps the Canes wish to see if Marner would.
 

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