What is Goalie Interference? Isles VS Blue Jackets
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Devilsfan992
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I'm going to say it. Thats the worst call this season
tarheelhockey
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Palmieri makes contact with the goaltender’s right leg — which is completely inside the crease — less than a second before the puck goes by.
It’s a tight call but I think the idea of it being egregiously wrong is getting overblown by angry fans. You can’t bump the goalie inside the crease as a shot is being taken and expect to get that call.
It’s a tight call but I think the idea of it being egregiously wrong is getting overblown by angry fans. You can’t bump the goalie inside the crease as a shot is being taken and expect to get that call.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
This to me is the definitive image. The location of Palmieri’s skates is irrelevant here — he can’t brush the goalie like this without risking a GI call.
From the angle behind the net, you can see them both struggle to maintain their balance due to this contact. That’s interference by the book, as the goalie has an absolute right to play his position and be fully set for the shot as long as he’s inside that blue paint.
dirtydanglez
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...it wasn't even the worst call in that game...the Officiating Crew was terrible...
That's cuz you're looking at very slow mo replays in tenths of seconds.
Just watch it in real time in that Chiclets Tweet. Their skates/legs come together in the crease and they both lose their balance a little bit. The shot is being loaded from the point as it's all happening.
It's pretty weak. Merzlikins doesn't argue it. But @ the same time Palmiere is all alone, there's a huge breakdown in coverage by the Blue Jackets that let him stand all alone in front. He should of just popped out to the slot to begin with.
Don't you worry, you'll see worse calls with teams geting boned in more high lerverage spots. Just pray your team isn't involved in one of them.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
It's worth an Athletic subscription for this article alone:
www.nytimes.com
Here's the part that matters here. Note the highlighted bit:
"Skate in the crease" is a standard that hasn't existed since the Stars won the Stanley Cup. If any part of a skater's body is within the crease, the skater is in the crease and is in the wrong. That is the written standard. Palmeri's ass was in the crease. Therefore he is in the crease. There was contact, and he was in the crease. Therefore, no goal.
As for the first one? Contact didn't occur until Lee had already exited the crease, and the contact happened outside of the crease. Therefore, good goal.
It's really not that hard, y'all.
Down Goes Brown: Read this post and you’ll understand (almost) every goaltender interference review
Our goal is to get you to accurately predict a goaltender interference review result maybe 80 or 90 percent of the time.
www.nytimes.com
Here's the part that matters here. Note the highlighted bit:
"Skate in the crease" is a standard that hasn't existed since the Stars won the Stanley Cup. If any part of a skater's body is within the crease, the skater is in the crease and is in the wrong. That is the written standard. Palmeri's ass was in the crease. Therefore he is in the crease. There was contact, and he was in the crease. Therefore, no goal.
As for the first one? Contact didn't occur until Lee had already exited the crease, and the contact happened outside of the crease. Therefore, good goal.
It's really not that hard, y'all.
CBJWerenski8
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Bad call but I loved it. It would be one thing if the goal came in immediately as contact is made, but Elvis did have time to reset
No skin in the game, but that is an absolutely terrible call. Roy has a point, what's the point of video review or going to Toronto. the goalie moved out and he had plenty of time and was in position.
Bonkers.
Bonkers.
Ulysses31
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tough 1 for sure but IMO goalie should have free range of the crease.
Looks like he stepped into it somewhat when contact was made.
Looks like he stepped into it somewhat when contact was made.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
It was called according to the standards in the rulebook. Whether or not it's "bad" is debatable the same way one might debate whether or not "delay of game, puck over glass" is bad. There still isn't a standard that makes everyone happy and they've been trying for a while.
Fatass
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Fatass
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The top view clearly shows Palmari skating into the goalie. That should be interference. Called correctly on the ice. No reason to overturn, considering the contact was in the crease.
The Hanging Jowl
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But Palmieri isn't in the crease. Exactly how much space is a skater expected to give a goalie? To the faceoff dot? I think this is a garbage call.
You'd have a point if the refs actually called games according to the standards in the rulebook, but they don't.
For example: a crosscheck is not a penalty in front of the net. There is no such standard in the rulebook. It makes no sense to call some penalties by the rulebook and some not. Refs and religious people seem to have a lot in common. They both pick and choose what to follow from "the book".
I think he has a bad night
This is possibly why it wasn't overturned, but not at all why the call was made in the first place. Which is that the ref saw the aggressive reaction to clipping a skate on the very edge of the crease. That was more distracting than palms ass, big as it is.It's worth an Athletic subscription for this article alone:
Down Goes Brown: Read this post and you’ll understand (almost) every goaltender interference review
Our goal is to get you to accurately predict a goaltender interference review result maybe 80 or 90 percent of the time.
Here's the part that matters here. Note the highlighted bit:
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"Skate in the crease" is a standard that hasn't existed since the Stars won the Stanley Cup. If any part of a skater's body is within the crease, the skater is in the crease and is in the wrong. That is the written standard. Palmeri's ass was in the crease. Therefore he is in the crease. There was contact, and he was in the crease. Therefore, no goal.
As for the first one? Contact didn't occur until Lee had already exited the crease, and the contact happened outside of the crease. Therefore, good goal.
It's really not that hard, y'all.
This rules interpretation implies goalies should do as Elvis did - forget about the puck and check the offensive player. That's absurd. The only response to that imo is to similarly check goalies if they are outside of the crease.
It was a bad judgment call, the refs obviously regretted. Not that hard y'all.
thewookie1
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Rough call but sorta evens out with the earlier call.
That and I'm a Sabres fan who still hates the Isles for shinning a puck in the net which cost us a playoff berth 2 years ago.
That and I'm a Sabres fan who still hates the Isles for shinning a puck in the net which cost us a playoff berth 2 years ago.
All the goals scored against the sabres costing playoff spots, you must have quite the negative emotional capacity.
I don't really need to see nyi lose in the first round to a much better team AGAIN. But this is kind of why refs swallow their whistles in the playoffs. They don't want a vid like this played thousands of times (especially God forbid it go against a Canadian team) if the situation was truly important, and - as a nyi fan this one really wasn't.
Contenderorpretender
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To answer the question, what is goaltender interference? You must first look inwards into the soul of man, the mysteries of the universe and the wonders of life. You'll quickly realize that nobody has definitive proof of one answer.......
Elvis tried to slew foot the screener and then punched him, instead of trying to save the shot. Then cries after the shooter scores.
I still stand by my opinion that for goalie interference to happen, the goalie has to be in process of actually attempting to make the save, and the goalie must actually be interfered with(for example, goalie tries to slide over, but cannot slide because a player blocks his way physically).
I still stand by my opinion that for goalie interference to happen, the goalie has to be in process of actually attempting to make the save, and the goalie must actually be interfered with(for example, goalie tries to slide over, but cannot slide because a player blocks his way physically).
Derailed75
All time jerk
The only way to fix it is to make it a 100% fact based decision. No gray areas no judgement. A skater in the crease when a goal happens or contact with the goalie who is in the crease=no goal. Nothing more nothing less.
