I wouldn’t say he was ever a defensive stalwart. He’s always had more of a puck carrier type slant to his game, but he was just big so he was kind of was assumed to be good defensively. I think in the right environment like in Colorado, or Jersey when they made a big jump in 22-23, he was a decent option as a big guy who can move the puck ok, but get into trouble sometimes, like a Tyler Myers. But like Myers he can make things worse when the fit isn’t right. It’s a bit weird his production has completely dried up, but Sullivan seems to have sucked the offense out of Karlsson too so maybe that’s part of it.