Oddbob
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He could literally be the worst GM in all of sports history and it means nothing with how he is viewed as a player.
What do you think should happen with Derek Lalonde?
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He could literally be the worst GM in all of sports history and it means nothing with how he is viewed as a player.
Watching his press conference from today my god he’s begging to be fired. Just absolutely pathetic
Oddbob
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Of course not. This is a developing team that’s supposed to be on the climb out of the rebuilding stage.
With that being said, The current coach at hand doesn’t do anything well. He’s been a placeholder since his hire and with the team being near competing stages; it’s time to get a real coach.
Piss poor start to the year. The team looks to have no identity. Most players look demoralized. Unless the team is okay with finishing bottom 5 this year and getting a real good draft pick, then I don’t see why it wouldn’t be the right time to have left Lalonde in California and to have hired an intern (at the least) for the time being to try to save the sinking ship
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JediOrderPizza
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Triggered by not wanting a guy who helped hide sexual assault which led to the guy doing it to kids.
Consider me triggered then, it's like the same people who use snowflake when actually they are the ones who get butthurt faster than anyone.
f*** Joel Quenneville
Consider me triggered then, it's like the same people who use snowflake when actually they are the ones who get butthurt faster than anyone.
f*** Joel Quenneville
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Yep don't want him anywhere near the Wings. Thankfully it seems he wants a team that's further along and ready to win than what we are so hopefully the opportunity to even get him won't happen.
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Oddbob
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No, it was a joke based on what he said after we got a point against McDrai.
Henkka
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Last time Red Wings have fired a Head Coach at mid-season, was at 1985-86.
Yzerman even didn't fire Guy Boucher, when the team did drop from 103 points --> 84 points during his second season. They still went to 3rd season and then he was fired after 31 games. (shortened 48-game season).
That 3rd Boucher-firing season ended with 68-point pace and they drafted 3rd overall (Jonathan Drouin).
Yzerman even didn't fire Guy Boucher, when the team did drop from 103 points --> 84 points during his second season. They still went to 3rd season and then he was fired after 31 games. (shortened 48-game season).
That 3rd Boucher-firing season ended with 68-point pace and they drafted 3rd overall (Jonathan Drouin).
LongTimeDRWF
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Yeah, I don't see SY firing Lalonde unless he loses the room completely. Watching the wings play, I am still not sure that the flu bug hasn't been to blame for some of the fiasco we see, some of the older players may take some time to fully recover, but I see way too many brain farts and coasting out there.
I still think Lalonde needs to keep Raymond, Kane and Tank as the first 3 RWs and do some more mix and match. I would like to see at least a 4 game stint of Berggren, Kasper and Raymond as a second line, then they reunite the Kane, Cat and Larkin.
If things don't get better soon (early December), I would look for SY to make a move with a contender, such as the Canes after Christmas, expect something wild especially if Andersen goes down again, salary in = salary out so maybe like Talbot + Ras/JV + Motte/Lagesson + 3rd = Necas, especially if Talbot get a Team Canada nod, his value will be sky high for the contract.
Necas has 30 points in 18 games. They are not dealing him for a bandaid goalie and assorted pieces.
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And we picked Rasmussen over him...FFS...
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Honestly, keep this man and ride out a bad year. This roster has a lot of glaring holes and bad players that I don't think are worth panic-fixing this season. While I'm I'm optimistic that a new coach is going to be for the better, I just feel we need to settle for a Realbad year
Let's have a New Jersey setback ala 2018-19 after that miraculous playoff berth (basically almost us last year) and then win that lottery finally baby. Sell off Kane and another veteran or two like Tarasenko and bomb this shit down the final stretch
Getting a top 5 pick this year, and especially top 3 would be amazing for us and we could bounce back with a big offseason going into 2025-26. The core we have surrounding this player would allow them a bit easier NHL transition to where they will become a better impact player, faster
Only problem is that I hope it doesn't piss off Larkin, Seider, and Raymond. I know those guys wanna win really bad and they're our best shot at it
Let's have a New Jersey setback ala 2018-19 after that miraculous playoff berth (basically almost us last year) and then win that lottery finally baby. Sell off Kane and another veteran or two like Tarasenko and bomb this shit down the final stretch
Getting a top 5 pick this year, and especially top 3 would be amazing for us and we could bounce back with a big offseason going into 2025-26. The core we have surrounding this player would allow them a bit easier NHL transition to where they will become a better impact player, faster
Only problem is that I hope it doesn't piss off Larkin, Seider, and Raymond. I know those guys wanna win really bad and they're our best shot at it
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LongTimeDRWF
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My point was something totally unexpected for a shake up might happen, just not to try to sell off some expiring contract players, some good old fashion hockey trades if an opportunity arises.
Yeah, Necas is having a career year start, but if any of the real contenders has their main goalie go down for the count...who are they going to get, and what will be the cost they are willing to pay if they they think they have at least a 2 year shot at the Cup?
I picked those assorted pieces as players that might plug into the Canes system (I watched a few of their last games) and really add to their depth for a run or two, for giving up a piece that may or may not be part of their long term plan.
If Andersen were to go down and out (I see he undergoing surgery today) is he a piece the Canes might really miss on a cup run? He is not much younger than Talbot and similar timeline length in remaining contract, and the right goalie can make or break a cup run.
An equal money in and out leaves Andersen's $3.4 contract (plus accrual if LTIR) for a pure rental at the TDL.
Capwages is saying Carolina has $1.5m in cap space right now (though who knows how accurate any of these sites are now). If Carolina maintains that til the deadline, they will have plenty of space to bring in a goalie. I think they'd just ride that kid they have before giving up that much for a goalie like Talbot, though.
I'd try to just pull their 1st and be happy, though I'd rather keep Talbot and move Lyon.
I'm not knocking your idea of going after an unexpected guy. I just don't think Necas is going to be that guy. Maybe Kotkaniemi (sp?) if you really want a player back, but I"d rather have the pick to be honest.
LongTimeDRWF
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Necas may not be the one, he just popped into my head as I have been watching some Canes games of late, it depends upon the contender and what they think their window is, but I could see SY saying the wings are past getting picks that are 4-6 years away from helping the team and want hockey trades for some younger proven talent. Andersen hitting the OR today was SH luck on my scenario
Personally, as a former goalie, I prefer they keep Talbot to mentor Cossa until Talbot hangs up the skates.
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Henkka
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Have to give credit for Lalonde about this game.
Those line changes worked (Motte swapped with Tarasenko from 1st to 4th line in mid-game) and both lines scored in the end.
Also team was prepared well from the start, and they had pretty complete 60min. Power-play struggled, but good 5-on-5 game finally made the difference. PK was also solid, not killing the game.
Those line changes worked (Motte swapped with Tarasenko from 1st to 4th line in mid-game) and both lines scored in the end.
Also team was prepared well from the start, and they had pretty complete 60min. Power-play struggled, but good 5-on-5 game finally made the difference. PK was also solid, not killing the game.
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Red Wings PP percentage dropped almost 10 pts in one game if people want to see how ridiculous it was to suggest our PP was/is better than last years.
Outside of reading a stat percentage point there wasn't a way someone actually should have believed that. (imo).
Outside of reading a stat percentage point there wasn't a way someone actually should have believed that. (imo).
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And people wonder why some of us are still bitter at Holland.
Only a couple more years left on the Abdelkader buyout!
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Yeah I was not aware of Necas' numbers. Now my Friday morning is roo-eeend.
Was also going to say it's only supposed be $1.1 million on the buyout for this year and two more years but that could potentially keep someone like Mazur off the team if he was ready.
