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Taylor Hall was not a disaster in Edmonton. He was a star.

The Oilers were a disaster.
Thing I'll always say about Hall is he was the one player you could point at on a team, that if you brought a kid to the game you could say this is Taylor Hall, watch him, watch his signature rushes, watch him fly, watch him bring it, and he would. His performance was actually quite professional on a bad club. Hall would bring the Hall package pretty much every game. With Hall you always knew what you were getting.
 
Taylor Hall was not a disaster in Edmonton. He was a star.

The Oilers were a disaster.
I probably could have worded my post a little better. I meant to say I don’t think Seguin would have worked out here at all. He left Boston quickly and I don’t think it would have been much different for him here as he’d have been under even more scrutiny here.
 
If McDavid was drafted in 2010, Drai in 2011, Nurse in 2012, Bouchard in 2013, Hall in 2014, RNH in 2015, Yak in 2016, Pulju in 2017.

There would probably be no DoD and the players would turn out pretty good
 
I probably could have worded my post a little better. I meant to say I don’t think Seguin would have worked out here at all. He left Boston quickly and I don’t think it would have been much different for him here as he’d have been under even more scrutiny here.
Well to be fair, it wasn't his choice to leave Boston.

It is really interesting to think about who would waffle under the Edmonton fan pressure and who thrives on it. Take a guy like Hyman... he LOVES the pressure. Other guys seem to fold under that pressure (hello skinner).

I am not sure Seguin is more or less mentally tough than Hall, but he has played on better teams and he has ALWAYS had a player that was better than him and had more pressure than him. Hall has not had the same relief. So, in that argument, I agree, I think Hall could handle the pressure here and perform, but not so sure about Seguin because we have never seen him tested as "the guy".
 
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Thing I'll always say about Hall is he was the one player you could point at on a team, that if you brought a kid to the game you could say this is Taylor Hall, watch him, watch his signature rushes, watch him fly, watch him bring it, and he would. His performance was actually quite professional on a bad club. Hall would bring the Hall package pretty much every game. With Hall you always knew what you were getting.
Well one of the reason why his plays are so distinct and hasn't changed all that much was because he still plays a junior style hockey from the time he was drafted until now.
 
Well one of the reason why his plays are so distinct and hasn't changed all that much was because he still plays a junior style hockey from the time he was drafted until now.
He went to the well he knew, and could do. Point is he was actually bringing it. I don't think Taylor Hall had the ability to go hands in traffic and protect puck through players. He used peripheral burn speed because that was his ticket. As he went on in fairness he developed other things too and in slot plays and such and had better hands than given credit for. The fishbowl here is that every player ever gets compared to the Glory years Oilers. Indeed its even why Miro Satan who was can't miss scorer at the time was traded in a mind numbingly dumb deal. Just the kind of thing this org does. To anybody watching Satan was gonna score a lot of goals.
 
I probably could have worded my post a little better. I meant to say I don’t think Seguin would have worked out here at all. He left Boston quickly and I don’t think it would have been much different for him here as he’d have been under even more scrutiny here.
Plus that the org scrutiny here was so negative on players. From Lowe, from MacT, they all felt they had it over players. They were very caustic with players and an org even going more that way specifically hiring guys like Pat Quinn and Eakins to basically malign the players and bring them to bootcamp. With Lowe particularly it was if he secretly despised younger players and man, that guy in person was a Grade A ahole. The "6 rings" thing was just a tip of the iceberg. Guy was constantly offputting. This was also the time frame of MacT getting into it with Penner and the org blaming a playoff exit on Mike Comrie. Just a shitty place to play for years. Then Cal Nichols asking Pronger "who wears the boots in your family" cringe cringe.
 
I probably could have worded my post a little better. I meant to say I don’t think Seguin would have worked out here at all. He left Boston quickly and I don’t think it would have been much different for him here as he’d have been under even more scrutiny here.
Oiler fans would have tore Seguin to sheds especially if Hall went to Boston and won a cup his first year.
 
Did a fun thing to kill some time. I went and looked at all the drafts from 2010-2020. I redrafted every position where we actually made a choice (didn't count traded draft picks) to select the bpa (could be some debate here - especially in 2011 where I took Hamilton instead of Nuge and Kucherov instead of Klefbom). The only other time I made an exception was choosing Batherson over Swayman because I already had vasilevski and shesterkin. Only kept Hyman, Perry and Walman/Eckholm as adds that we wouldn't have drafted. I couldn't decide between the two trades for Walman and Eckholm, so just put them both in as a "one or the other".


Seguin McDavid Hyman
Robertson Draisaitl Tkachuk
Kaprizov Kucherov Caufield
Carrier McLeod Holloway
Perry, Batherson

Fox Hamilton
Slavin Bouchard
Morrisey Walman/Eckholm
Faulk

Vasilevskiy
Shesterkin

Here is the original draftees:

Hall McDavid Hyman
Nuge Draisaitl Plujujarvi
Yammamoto M.A Roy Benson
Pitlick McLeod Yakapov
Moroz, Perry

Nurse Bouchard
Klefbom Caleb Jones
Walman/Eckholm Lagesson

Skinner
Rodrigue


I will take team A please...
Hindsight is such a useful tool, isn't?;) Guess I'm a dumb dumb for not buying up Apple and Microsoft stock when they were first offered.
 
Hindsight is such a useful tool, isn't?;) Guess I'm a dumb dumb for not buying up Apple and Microsoft stock when they were first offered.
Obviously it is using hindsight - you know you are allowed to review the work people have done. This comment offers nothing to the discussion. Good job.
 
Kane, Perry, Skinner and Arvidsson capspace available



Hyman McDavid RNH
Holloway Draisaitl Foegle
Vrana Henrique Frederick
Kapanen Janmark Brown




Bouchard Ekholm
Nurse Fabbro
Kulak Oleksiak

Spencer Knight
Pickard


A perfect blend of youth, speed, size, experience. Literally walk our way to the cup.
 
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