What big move can the leafs make?

[CabanaBoy5]

On the 4th ring of the 9th circle of hell, the snowball will do just fine.

Ahhh gotta love a Dante's Inferno reference on HF.

You're right btw.

 

[Trapper]

I’d love to see our big move be signing Nichushkin to play alongside JT and Nylander.

Can’t afford him. If people think Kadri will get paid, why not him. Someone else would have to go.
Can you get him signed 5/6x6 and move Nylander?
That’s 4 extra years at lower cost.

 

[TheScandal89]

Very true...everyone is always enamored with Coleman and Goodrow along with this years special Nick Paul. But if we never even attempt to draft a high compete guy who will go through a wall...how are we going to get them when they hit UFA and are expensive. That is always the excuse...too expensive.

Exactly, guys like Nickushkin and Marchment are both going get paid this summer, well beyond our price range for the role. Paul I could see staying in Tampa but he is probably gonna be overpaid if he leaves, relative to what a bottom 6 player should get.

Knies could essentially be a middle 6 LW deadline addition this season anyway at ELC cost. Who knows his ceiling, maybe he slots in with Matthews and Marner and Bunting goes down or maybe he drives the 3rd line to give us secondary scoring. We'll see but his ELC will make him so valuable to us.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Arizona:

Mathews​

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Toronto:

Arizona 1st. pick 2022​

Carolina 1st. pick 2022​

Colorado 1st. pick 2022​

Arizona 1st. pick 2023​

Arizona 1st. pick 2024​

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Easily do that deal

Cooley
Miroshnichenko
Trikozov
Firkus

All in one draft wowzers

 

[Dough72]

the biggest turnaround is simply hiring new management. It costs nothing and can have as big an impact as drafting Auston Matthews. If old management like Shanahan/Dubas is failing over and over and over try something new it's not rocket science. Unfortunately whoever hired them is refusing to admit they were wrong.

 

[Leafs98]

Sign Corey Perry for min. We're going to the finals !

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Mrazak and 2022 1st to AZ for cap space.

they aren't trading their 1st rounder for nothing they did it with Marleau because they had to sign Marner they don't have any core players to sign this time.

No Jack Campbell is not a core player

 

[danny90]

Mrazak and 2022 1st to AZ for cap space.

Mrazek is not a dead weight. He had an unlucky year due to injury. I can’t see us moving on from him, let alone giving up a first to do so.

 

[Nineteen67]

Mrazek is not a dead weight. He had an unlucky year due to injury. I can’t see us moving on from him, let alone giving up a first to do so.

Do you think he’ll be their number 1 goalie?

 

[notDatsyuk]

JT contract was always going to age rough but we all accepted that.

Matthews and Marner deals are solid.

All three contracts would have been around 10 millionish if Covid would have been known. Completely screwed us. Could you imagine us with 5-10 million more cap space right now (probably near the higher number)

Projected cap before Covid for 2020-2021 was 84 million to 88.2 million. With the NHL still making big revenues even this season, I don't think its a stretch to say it would have been 90+ million this season.

Having 15+ million to play with would have been nice, thats for sure.

I think we all understood that JTs contract was "going to age rough", but there are a fair number,, myself included, who didn't like it from the start.

Other than that, I can agree with your post.

 

[TMLAM34]

Can’t afford him. If people think Kadri will get paid, why not him. Someone else would have to go.
Can you get him signed 5/6x6 and move Nylander?
That’s 4 extra years at lower cost.

Prior to this year, Nichushkin’s highest NHL point total is 29 and considered a major bust. I don’t think he’s in the same sentence when it comes to salary in free agency as Kadri who has multiple 30+ goal seasons under his belt and is coming off over a PPG on top of playing a more coveted position.

 

[Trapper]

Prior to this year, Nichushkin’s highest NHL point total is 29 and considered a major bust. I don’t think he’s in the same sentence when it comes to salary in free agency as Kadri who has multiple 30+ goal seasons under his belt and is coming off over a PPG on top of playing a more coveted position.

Late bloomer? Get him cheaper?
4 mil x 6 years? It’s a chance but one that could pay off. Champions usually have that move/salary that people go how?
Move Nylander for the right goalie/high end D.
Matthews - Marner
Tavares - Nichushkin

 

[ToneDog]

Late bloomer? Get him cheaper?
4 mil x 6 years? It’s a chance but one that could pay off. Champions usually have that move/salary that people go how?
Move Nylander for the right goalie/high end D.
Matthews - Marner
Tavares - Nichushkin

The secret/strategy is to sign them before they breakout.

 

[Trapper]

The secret/strategy is to sign them before they breakout.

If you can get him on the Kadri 4.5 deal with term, 6 years, you can save yourself Nylander UFA in 2 years. Focus on Matthews re-sign and lower what could be a core member cost. Will it work? We should be looking at all options.

 

[TMLAM34]

Late bloomer? Get him cheaper?
4 mil x 6 years? It’s a chance but one that could pay off. Champions usually have that move/salary that people go how?
Move Nylander for the right goalie/high end D.
Matthews - Marner
Tavares - Nichushkin

I think it’ll cost closer to 5 million a year for Nichushkin. Which is still doable. Kerfoot and Holl combined cost you 5.5 million. Nichushkin and Robertson combined cost you 5.8 million.

 

[ToneDog]

Easiest move was Cassidy in and Keefe out but the Dube is going to do it his way or the highway. No way this fanbase will accept a 7th first round exit except for the Dubas fanboys of course. They will have a new excuse.

 

[Trapper]

I think it’ll cost closer to 5 million a year for Nichushkin. Which is still doable. Kerfoot and Holl combined cost you 5.5 million. Nichushkin and Robertson combined cost you 5.8 million.

Getting him signed for 6 years cheaper than Nylander, signing Matthews to 8 years on his next deal, losing Tavares 11 million in 3 years and moving Nylander for a core D piece or high end goalie could put us in a very good spot for the future.
Maybe not immediately but we are only spinning our wheels now, but with some additional solid drafting and hopefully guys like Amirov/Knies breaking in a couple of years.

 

[ToneDog]

Getting him signed for 6 years cheaper than Nylander, signing Matthews to 8 years on his next deal, losing Tavares 11 million in 3 years and moving Nylander for a core D piece or high end goalie could put us in a very good spot for the future.
Maybe not immediately but we are only spinning our wheels now, but with some additional solid drafting and hopefully guys like Amirov/Knies breaking in a couple of years.

There is no taking a step back. Shanny and Dubas have set the bar too high making fans believe this team can win a SC when it can't win a f'n round.

 

[Trapper]

There is no taking a step back. Shanny and Dubas have set the bar too high making fans believe this team can win a SC when it can't win a f'n round.

That’s too bad. I believe if we don’t prepare a new future (and prepare for it), we will be doomed to repeat the past.
And we might lose more than an alteration now would do.

 

[ToneDog]

That’s too bad. I believe if we don’t prepare a new future (and prepare for it), we will be doomed to repeat the past.
And we might lose more than an alteration now would do.

I agree, I said Dubas should have lowered expectations last year and do a reset. Unfortunately he sees the iceberg but is set on sailing straight through her.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Controversial take but IMO we do something about Holl

 

[TheRumble]

The secret/strategy is to sign them before they breakout.

Incidentally this is the one criticism I have of Dubas to this day that I think was his biggest misstep. "If you have time use it"

Led to him waiting until Marner got 94 points in a contract year to extend him. If he had done it early we likely are only paying Marner $8-9 million

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Mrazek is not a dead weight. He had an unlucky year due to injury. I can’t see us moving on from him, let alone giving up a first to do so.

If another team wants him for free right now, I think the Leafs will move him. If another team wants anything worthwhile, I doubt the Leafs move him after the season he just had and I can see him being the tandem guy for a younger guy with upside like a Blackwood, Husso, or Samsonov.

Blackwood and Samsonov are not going to be expensive. Blackwood makes 2.8 mill. Samsonov will probably make less than that on his next deal. With Mrazek, that is 6.6 mill or less on goalies; more than reasonable for us.

Then next year, Mrazek is moved. If he bounces back, it will be for positive value. If he doesn't, it shouldn't be a ridiculous cost to dump his last year. Who replaces him depends on how Samsonov/Blackwood do, but it could be Woll.

 

[Trapper]

I think it’ll cost closer to 5 million a year for Nichushkin. Which is still doable. Kerfoot and Holl combined cost you 5.5 million. Nichushkin and Robertson combined cost you 5.8 million.

You could still move Kerfoot and Mich, sign Nich and run with Nylander if the price is right.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Nylander - JT - Nichushkin

Then see how things go. Then we are covered if the Nylander contract shows signs of being too much, or a great deal comes along for a D.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Late bloomer? Get him cheaper?
4 mil x 6 years? It’s a chance but one that could pay off. Champions usually have that move/salary that people go how?
Move Nylander for the right goalie/high end D.
Matthews - Marner
Tavares - Nichushkin

Nichushkin is a speedster - he won't work with Tavares any better than Nylander does.