What’s going on with Zegras?

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The hockey knowledge on these boards continues to degrade.

The same way that there was an hfboards wide manhunt for Toews for being on the top 100 over Malkin, people can't stand Zegras because he can do flashy things and was on the cover of NHL 23.

I haven't watched a Ducks game yet this year, but he's got incredible vision and hands and has shown that he can create things out of nothing.

He may not be in the right situation, and is also trying to get back on track after a serious injury, but I would bet hundreds of dollars that he will have multiple 70+ point season in his career and that might be conservative.

Zegras gets a ton of hate by other fans for being the cover athlete, like it was his fault. If he didn’t get that cover, we would not have a new thread every couple months, full of fans dying to hate on a 23 year old.

Fans should be mad/hateful towards EA not Trevor…. He got offered something and he took it and why shouldn’t he?

People mindlessly hating and comparing him to Milano/schremp, and completely ignoring what he has done and what he is capable of doing because they are blinded by the fact that he’s got a “fun” personality and equate that to “hot dogging”.

Is he struggling, sure… but he’s shown plenty of occasions where he is a legit nhl talent…. Lots of people struggle/struggling in Anaheim…. I think eventually ducks will move zegras and it’ll end up a mistake

 

[LuGBuG]

Zegras gets a ton of hate by other fans for being the cover athlete, like it was his fault. If he didn’t get that cover, we would not have a new thread every couple months, full of fans dying to hate on a 23 year old.

Fans should be mad/hateful towards EA not Trevor…. He got offered something and he took it and why shouldn’t he?

People mindlessly hating and comparing him to Milano/schremp, and completely ignoring what he has done and what he is capable of doing because they are blinded by the fact that he’s got a “fun” personality and equate that to “hot dogging”.

Is he struggling, sure… but he’s shown plenty of occasions where he is a legit nhl talent…. Lots of people struggle/struggling in Anaheim…. I think eventually ducks will move zegras and it’ll end up a mistake

Same worry I have. I know he’s going to figure it out consistently. Just praying it’s while he’s with us.

 

[banks]

Zegras gets a ton of hate by other fans for being the cover athlete, like it was his fault. If he didn’t get that cover, we would not have a new thread every couple months, full of fans dying to hate on a 23 year old.

Fans should be mad/hateful towards EA not Trevor…. He got offered something and he took it and why shouldn’t he?

People mindlessly hating and comparing him to Milano/schremp, and completely ignoring what he has done and what he is capable of doing because they are blinded by the fact that he’s got a “fun” personality and equate that to “hot dogging”.

Is he struggling, sure… but he’s shown plenty of occasions where he is a legit nhl talent…. Lots of people struggle/struggling in Anaheim…. I think eventually ducks will move zegras and it’ll end up a mistake

Great post. I think Zegras is fun to watch. Why do people want to hate on someone that's fun to watch? We all watch hockey because we like to see skill and talent. He shows skill and talent. He's literally worth the price of a ticket.

I still think he'll hit 80+ points when he figures some things out.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Great post. I think Zegras is fun to watch. Why do people want to hate on someone that's fun to watch? We all watch hockey because we like to see skill and talent. He shows skill and talent. He's literally worth the price of a ticket.

I still think he'll hit 80+ points when he figures some things out.

Ya it’s not like he’s completely invisible in games, I think he’s really lacking confidence right now…. And I think the ducks are forcing him to play a dump and chase style that isn’t a good fit for him.


Zegras was at his best when he’s challenging defenders, carrying the puck and make plays with his hands/vision and passing.

This season he seems allergic to holding the puck for 2 seconds or more, and a lot of times he just dumps it in and chases. I like zegras, but that is not a style he’s going to excel in, and seems like the team is kinda clipping his wings

 

[GeeoffBrown]

What's his MA/60 (Michigan Attempts per 60min played)? How's that doing?

Matthew Tkachuk has at least 1 between the legs shot attempt/60 and is still a dangerous player.

So, obviously trying trick shots in games is not the big issue

 

[57special]

I don't get to watch him, as ANA games aren't a staple on national TV. Does he look bad? Inneffectual? Timid? Unlucky? Hampered by injury?

Hughes aside, he was thought to be the bright star early on out of the group that included Boldy, Caufield, and Turcotte. It's disturbing to think that even the very disappointing Turcotte is outscoring him this year.

 

[CowbellConray]

He is at best going to be a Mike Ribeiro type guy - high end offense but soft and lazy. Unfortunately, he is looking to be worse than Mike, but he has a long career still left ahead.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I don't get to watch him, as ANA games aren't a staple on national TV. Does he look bad? Inneffectual? Timid? Unlucky? Hampered by injury?

Hughes aside, he was thought to be the bright star early on out of the group that included Boldy, Caufield, and Turcotte. It's disturbing to think that even the very disappointing Turcotte is outscoring him this year.

Lacking confidence…. Not exactly being put in a position to succeed… he’s forced into a dump and chase line but that doesn’t really compliment him stylistically.

He’s still making plays but he’s a lot less aggressive than he was in previous years…. He hardly attacks players 1 on 1 anymore which was something he was really good at . Another issue is we have no goal scorers, zegras is a play maker at his root…. If the guys on the other side of the pass can’t score that’s going to be an issue.

Vatrano 1 goal (empty netter)
Mctavish 0 goals
Gauthier 0 goals
Killorn 1 goal(empty netter)

That’s 4 guys that we brought in to help in goal scoring.

i think hell be fine on a new team, or new coach/system here. The whole forward group is kinda struggling(outside of terry/carlsson), something doesn’t feel right with the system/coaching, but I suppose you get what you pay for

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

He is at best going to be a Mike Ribeiro type guy - high end offense but soft and lazy. Unfortunately, he is looking to be worse than Mike, but he has a long career still left ahead.

good top 6 player , nothing wrong with that , kind of in a slump now but I expect him to have multiple 60+ seasons going forward

 

[A1LeafNation]

Reminds me of Domi, only plays good at center, but not a good center.

 

[Leonardo87]

Greg Cronin is what’s going on. Entire team is below where they should be in production.

You need to watch some Ducks games (no not just when they play your team)

They are a very passive team will wait for the puck to come to them and pass up opportunities and are then stuck defending in their own zone. They also take too much time to transition the puck from the defense giving the other team plenty of time to get set up to defend.

Cronin tries to implement a Dump and Chase system, yet players like Zegras, Terry, and Carlsson are stronger with carrying the puck.

Cronin can shuffle the chairs(lines) like on the deck of the Titanic, but nothing is going to change with his system unless he has changed his approach.

Ducks are tied for dead last in GF, and are .500 because of Dostal

So trust me, it’s not on Zegras. Maybe a little but not all of it.

 

[BonMorrison]

Zegras' career went downhill after the incident with Stecher, makes u think

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Zegras' career went downhill after the incident with Stecher, makes u think

The nothing incident that was blown out of proportion by online lip readers?

 

[GOilers88]

Zegras is playing on a Ducks team that isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so whatever he does or doesn't do really has no effect on anything so long as he avoids injury. The checks will clear either way. So why not just kick back and enjoy the Newport Beach lifestyle and not overly exert yourself to no meaningful purpose?

Would love to have him in Vegas.

This read hilariously in my head.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Zegras gets a ton of hate by other fans for being the cover athlete, like it was his fault. If he didn’t get that cover, we would not have a new thread every couple months, full of fans dying to hate on a 23 year old.

Imagine trying to hate other fans for Zegras being overhyped when your own username is based on the player lol. Ducks fans tried to talk this guy up as a superstar and he's not delivering, that lives with your fanbase sorry.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Imagine trying to hate other fans for Zegras being overhyped when your own username is based on the player lol. Ducks fans tried to talk this guy up as a superstar and he's not delivering, that lives with your fanbase sorry.

You do realize everyone hyped him up before his cover(including neutral fans on these boards).

When he became cover athlete that’s when he started really getting hated

And oh no I have a player on the ducks in my username that I think is a good player and enjoy watching!?! Oh no!

I still think he’s going to be a very good player, and most duck fans feel the same way. But not in this system(lot of players look bad in this system)

 

[DJJones]

Playing on a bad team for years on end is terrible for motivation and development.

Whoever trades for him will probably get a solid player.

 

[HanSolo]

While I agree Cronin isn’t a great coach, Dallas Eakins who was TZs coach those prior years isn’t exactly Scotty Bowman neither. Cronin=Eakins

This is more on the player than coaching.

Idk about more. I'd say it's probably equal. I think in trying to mold Zegras into a more complete player the team has suffocated out a lot of his offensive creativity and risk taking that helped him perform when he was younger. In other words, instead of fostering his strengths, they suppressed them in the interest of developing new ones. And, I'm only giving my subjective observation, but Zegras both on the ice and in media availability seems unhappy. He used to exude this energy of a guy who loved nothing more than being a hockey player. Now he has this energy of a guy who's just here.

Considering Lybushkin openly stated that Greg Cronin made him question if he even liked playing hockey anymore. I think there's something to it.

Being a Ducks fan before a Knights fan, I hope you're right .... but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

WTF? I've known you as a poster for years and had no idea you were also a Ducks fan.

 

[StreetHawk]

Playing on a bad team for years on end is terrible for motivation and development.

Whoever trades for him will probably get a solid player.

Fans of bad teams with top prospects in the NHL don't seem to think like that. They want to tank for a high pick this year still.

There is getting games in the NHL and there is development. Does playing in a bad environment ultimately make you better? Obviously, rebuilding clubs are still going to lose. But, need to win enough to maintain belief in the structure of what the coaching staff is preaching. Or keep the games close at least so that the club still plays within the structure.

 

[Ezpz]

Sandbagging so he can get traded for less.

Also not a guy who fits the system Anaheim is implementing.

 

[HanSolo]

He was always overrated. National "experts" probably still would rank him ahead of Seider in a redraft.

A lot of hot takes in here but this is just saying passive aggressive shit for the sake of it. No one in their right mind would put Z over Seider.

 

[HanSolo]

Sandbagging so he can get traded for less.

Also not a guy who fits the system Anaheim is implementing.

The irony being that virtually no one fits the system Cronin is implementing and the past 1.1 seasons have been an extended exercise I'm trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

 

[DJJones]

Fans of bad teams with top prospects in the NHL don't seem to think like that. They want to tank for a high pick this year still.

There is getting games in the NHL and there is development. Does playing in a bad environment ultimately make you better? Obviously, rebuilding clubs are still going to lose. But, need to win enough to maintain belief in the structure of what the coaching staff is preaching. Or keep the games close at least so that the club still plays within the structure.

The top end players seem to do better. Gifted top line and top PP must help the motivation. That and the team will get them help.

It's the depth players that seem to struggle. Bunch of players that could/should be effective 2nd line player just fall off the development curve.

 

[HabsQC]

Habs will trade you Alex Newhook for him.

You need speed ? Newhook is your guy. It's all I'll say to sell him to you because that's litterally all he has.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Am I the only person on the planet who has basically never heard anyone say anything good about this guy and therefore doesn't understand how he could possibly be "overrated"