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Series Discussion Western Conference Finals - Dallas vs. Edmonton | Oilers lead 3-2

redbeardtx

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Elysian said:
It's wild, actual Stars fans are being pretty chill, and the response is anything but.
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From what I've seen, it's mostly CGY/VAN/TOR fans trolling/enraging them, and then they (EDM fans) take it out on us for some reason. Especially after Edmonton won last night you had a bunch of their fans coming in here complaining about the refs, camera angles, # of fans, etc. Just crazy

Also, "WDI" just makes their heads f***in EXPLODE
 
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redbeardtx said:
From what I've seen, it's mostly CGY/VAN/TOR fans trolling/enraging them, and then they (EDM fans) take it out on us for some reason. Especially after Edmonton won last night you had a bunch of their fans coming in here complaining about the refs, camera angles, # of fans, etc. Just crazy

Also, "WDI" just makes their heads f***in EXPLODE
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that's fair, idk what it would be like to have so many fans hardcore attacking us 24/7. gotta be trauma inducing.

regardless tho.. f*** 'em. WDI
 
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Troy McClure

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Last night, Bob Sturm said Robertson needs to do more in the playoffs, and some Stars fans got mad about it.

But the numbers are a problem. Everyone's even strength scoring declines come playoff time because your opponents get better and refs let defenders cheat more, but ... an expected drop off doesn't excuse a complete disappearance.



Regular season career shooting percentage 14.9% with him getting 3 shots per game.

Playoff career shooting percentage drops to 10.8% with him getting 2.5 shots per game.

This playoff run has his shooting percentage at 10.5% with him getting 1.9 shots per game.

This is bad.
 
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Troy McClure said:
Last night, Bob Sturm said Robertson needs to do more in the playoffs, and some Stars fans got mad about it.

But the numbers are a problem. Everyone's even strength scoring declines come playoff time because your opponents get better and refs let defenders cheat more, but ... an expected drop off doesn't excuse a complete disappearance.



Regular season career shooting percentage 14.9% with him getting 3 shots per game.

Playoff career shooting percentage drops to 10.8% with him getting 2.5 shots per game.

This playoff run has his shooting percentage at 10.5% with him getting 1.9 shots per game.

This is bad.
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I think he has played more minutes with Pavelski than anyone else and Hintz has been broken, who he has also spent a lot of time playing with. Basically the quality of his linemates has fallen off badly. Pavelski is a shadow of his former self, if he could have even just continued his regular season level of play, how much better does Robo look?

I think Robo has looked good whenever he plays with Wyatt and/or Stank.

Not saying he shouldn’t be playing better, I would love to see him elevate, but those numbers don’t tell the whole story.

Just IMHO
 
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Troy McClure

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Here’s an interesting look at how the Stars approached what to do after the 2016-17 season.

The Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin era was “losing steam,” in Nill’s words. Patrick Sharp and Ales Hemsky, brought in to help prop open Dallas’ window of contention, were injured and on their way out. Jason Spezza was “starting to time out.” A few meager drafts meant no help was imminent from within, and the salary cap ensured that little hope was coming from without. It looked bleak, and so Nill met with his staff and Stars owner Tom Gaglardi and presented him with all options. Blowing it all up. Tearing it all down. Tanking.
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No, the Stars didn’t tank following that 2016-17 season. They tweaked. They tinkered. Those meetings that started with such a gloomy outlook yielded a new philosophy on drafting, developing and team-building. They switched their draft focus from size to skill. They preached patience with prospects. They hung their hopes on a rising prospect still playing in Finland named Roope Hintz, they caught a bit of good fortune in the draft lottery to move up from eighth to third, and they went out and had the draft of a lifetime.
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www.nytimes.com

No tanks: How the Stars keep drafting and developing talent from the back of the first round

The Stars have a lot of young talent. How do they do it? They don't just find good players — they routinely put them in position to succeed.
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Gaglardi said tanking wasn’t an option because he can’t afford seasons with low ticket sales. Not that I blame him either. The tanking approach has a batting average no different from not tanking.

There’s also a bit of revisionist history going on here. Yeah, in 2016, they used their first round pick on Tufte, a big guy whose scouting report may not once use a word like skill, so deciding to never again draft a handless lug has remained true. But even before this big drafting strategy shift, they’d already used first round picks on guys like Gurianov and Honka, both guys who were all skill with no other substance. And then the summer after this big philosophy shift, they spent their first rounder on Dellandrea knowing they were drafting a future checking line center.

If anything, I’d say their draft luck can be attributed to finding guys with the right mental makeup more than any mix of skill/size attributes. Nill’s first three top picks of Nichushkin, Honka, and Gurianov were a heck of a trio of skilled guys who all have huge deficiencies when it comes to mental fortitude and commitment. Avoiding quitters and head cases seems to have been the actual draft philosophy shift.
 
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