GDT: Welcome, 2025 | Detroit @ Columbus | 7 PM EST

[Monk]

SOJ

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

$6,000,000 for Elvis is a huge waste of $$$$

Good because he doesn't make that much.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

He’s been a whipping boy since Jarmo paid way too much to acquire him in a trade

I know it's frustrating post loss but I don't see Provorov getting dealt for anything less than a late first

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Elvis shouldn’t be blamed for that goal, but he never ever gives us a save when we need it most. I remember Bob winning us games we had no business winning.

In all fairness, nobody ever remembers the saves but its easy to remember the goals that piss you off.

But I'm not gonna lie. When I saw the guy coming with literally no D near him I knew it was over.

Gotta remember there is a guy coming out of the box even if it was an unfortunate deflection.

 

[VABUCK]

Base salary is $6,000,000 in 2024-2025 with a CAP hit of $5,400,000 so yeah he is making that much.

Good because he doesn't make that much.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Base salary is $6,000,000 in 2024-2025 with a CAP hit of $5,400,000 so yeah he is making that much.

Well, cap hit is all that matters to me. And doesn't matter to me that much even because I just like when people do their job and let the accountants worry about payroll.

 

[CBJ goalie]

I haven’t been following is Provorov now whipping boy #2 ?

Who isn't a whipping boy on this team?
Sheesh, some of you have to relax.... always looking for someone to blame. What a way to live.
All of these blame Elvis posts are laughable - and those recalling the days of Bobrovsky?? Really, the same fan base that chased him out of Columbus, made him see sports psychologists because he was constantly getting blamed....sounds familiar???
Sometimes I wonder how I joined a fanbase that hates goalies constantly.

 

[Cowumbus]

We need to stop with the 11-7 crap.

We also have 1 functioning NHL line. Not sure if calling up a Brindley/LDBB gives us two, but we need something. I’d take a vet like Nyquist even if it costs us picks.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Who isn't a whipping boy on this team?
Sheesh, some of you have to relax.... always looking for someone to blame. What a way to live.
All of these blame Elvis posts are laughable - and those recalling the days of Bobrovsky?? Really, the same fan base that chased him out of Columbus, made him see sports psychologists because he was constantly getting blamed....sounds familiar???
Sometimes I wonder how I joined a fanbase that hates goalies constantly.

I mean, to be fair, Elvis was atrocious on two of the goals.

Blaming him on the breakaway is completely misplaced though.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Jody mentioned it on the broadcast but how do you not have JVR on either PP unit after the game he was having? Why is ZAR out there? Was JVR gassed? You could have called a timeout

 

[Cowumbus]

1 functioning line.

Did any line outside of 10-23-86 successfully sustain zone time / cyclone the puck in the ozone 5v5?

Watching that live sucked.

 

[thebus88]

In all fairness, nobody ever remembers the saves but its easy to remember the goals that piss you off.

Well, in fairness, his job is to literally stop about 9 outta every 10 shots….

Almost every save he makes harder than it should be.

Elvis was responsible for at least 2 of the goals.

 

[majormajor]

We need to stop with the 11-7 crap.

We also have 1 functioning NHL line. Not sure if calling up a Brindley/LDBB gives us two, but we need something. I’d take a vet like Nyquist even if it costs us picks.

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Waddell so far. This team is so close to being good and two of his big choices so far have been to keep our shitty goaltending and to gut our scoring depth.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Waddell so far. This team is so close to being good and two of his big choices so far have been to keep our shitty goaltending and to gut our scoring depth.

What scoring depth did he gut? One guy desperately wanted out of town, another passed away a couple of weeks before training camp, a 3rd has missed the last month with an undisclosed injury and a 4th tore apart his shoulder in training camp.

Additionally, Elvis has actually been decent and are we blaming DW for Tarasov being shitty?

 

[stevo61]

Honestly I'm not a big fan of Waddell so far. This team is so close to being good and two of his big choices so far have been to keep our shitty goaltending and to gut our scoring depth.

I think it's a full evaluation year, I expect some fireworks in the offseason

 

[alphafox]

Normally I am pessimistic about losses like tonight, but it is worth remembering that by all rights this team should be one of, if not the worst, teams in the league. We have multiple top 6 guys out at any given moment, a basket case of a goalie situation, and the most cap space in the league. In spite of all that this team seems to have taken a major step forward in the culture and player development department as this would have been over in the first period over the last few years. I expect a lot of improvement this offseason and next with the assets and next wave of young players hitting which could turn into something special if the team keeps the never say die attitude they have displayed much of this season.

 

[Indy18]

I think it's a full evaluation year, I expect some fireworks in the offseason

Always felt like this was a year to see what he has and doesn't have. I fully expect goaltending to be wiped out by summer with an Elvis buyout and probably moving on from Tarasov

 

[majormajor]

What scoring depth did he gut? One guy desperately wanted out of town, another passed away a couple of weeks before training camp, a 3rd has missed the last month with an undisclosed injury and a 4th tore apart his shoulder in training camp.

Additionally, Elvis has actually been decent and are we blaming DW for Tarasov being shitty?

Even before Johnny's passing, Wads acknowledged that we were short on forwards. And so naturally he waits.. and waits ... and then signs three leftover guys that no one else wanted. We don't know the circumstances with Tex or Alex Nylander, maybe they had to go, and neither are very good. And certainly Roslovic and Laine were poor fits that had to go. But it's the GMs job to replace players when he sends others out. He hasn't done that. And I don't think missing two forwards to injury is that unusual, if that isn't the norm, it sure seems to be for teams I follow.

I don't think Elvis has been decent. Not his worst either, but he hasn't been good. I still wish we had bought him out last summer, the case for it was strong enough at the time.

I think it's a full evaluation year, I expect some fireworks in the offseason

Well over a year ago now, after the Babcock debacle, I made the point that keeping Jarmo for the year and then replacing him in the next offseason would result in the next guy taking a "full evaluation year" to figure out the team. So basically two whole years before we can try to win. I personally don't think it takes that long to figure out what this team needs. I think we know right now what it would take for this team to take a step, give the best supporting environment to our young guns, and possibly make the playoffs now. We don't have a good enough reason not to try winning.

 

[VT]

I looked at the goals. To come back into the game like that and get such a stupid goal at the last minute..... That's something. How Provorov could shoot like that in the last minute if there was a danger of blocking I don't understand at all.

 

[VT]

Even before Johnny's passing, Wads acknowledged that we were short on forwards. And so naturally he waits.. and waits ... and then signs three leftover guys that no one else wanted. We don't know the circumstances with Tex or Alex Nylander, maybe they had to go, and neither are very good. And certainly Roslovic and Laine were poor fits that had to go. But it's the GMs job to replace players when he sends others out. He hasn't done that. And I don't think missing two forwards to injury is that unusual, if that isn't the norm, it sure seems to be for teams I follow.

I don't think Elvis has been decent. Not his worst either, but he hasn't been good. I still wish we had bought him out last summer, the case for it was strong enough at the time.

Waddell would never trade Laine if he wants to stay, btw he played excellent if he was health. Roslovic played pretty well with Jenner and Gaudreau. As practice has shown, players need to be used properly, Brind'Amour has showed that. You can see that in Robinson too.

I'm sorry we haven't drafted Demidov yet. Ivan is originally a center, he has all the tools to be a great center. While it's nice that Lindstrom plays physical hockey, but Demidov is a level better minimum. I saw him play in the KHL. He has everything, excellent hockey IQ, skill, skating, in the games I've seen he played well at the boards. Much better than Marchenko, he's more talented than Mikhkov. I think he will be a superstar.

It's easy to be smart now, but maybe we should have traded Jiříček. If a player is sulking like that, it's better to get rid of him.

Why did we take Harris? Could we have just taken a d-man or did we want a d-man? Montreal might have traded Newhook, Heineman or Beck, especially when they drafted Demidov and Hage. Hughes couldn't have known that Emil would play so great in the preseason and then the season.

As far as new players go, I like Aston-Reese. But it was pretty weird to rely on Chinakhov's health, especially when he's been injured the last two seasons.

 

[EspenK]

Well over a year ago now, after the Babcock debacle, I made the point that keeping Jarmo for the year and then replacing him in the next offseason would result in the next guy taking a "full evaluation year" to figure out the team. So basically two whole years before we can try to win. I personally don't think iMaybe both?t takes that long to figure out what this team needs. I think we know right now what it would take for this team to take a step, give the best supporting environment to our young guns, and possibly make the playoffs now. We don't have a good enough reason not to try winning.

I agree. Wads should have traded for Hellyebuck, Somehow traded for Makar or Hughes.Maybe both? Marchand is an upcoming UFA could probably land him for a couple of picks and a few prospects.Probably should bring back Roslovic and maybe throw in Necas as an afterthought.

And at the TDL lets dump Provorov AND Severson while simultaneously being buyers to improve team D and solidify second and third scoring lines.

 

[majormajor]

I agree. Wads should have traded for Hellyebuck, Somehow traded for Makar or Hughes.Maybe both? Marchand is an upcoming UFA could probably land him for a couple of picks and a few prospects.Probably should bring back Roslovic and maybe throw in Necas as an afterthought.

And at the TDL lets dump Provorov AND Severson while simultaneously being buyers to improve team D and solidify second and third scoring lines.

This team is a league average goalie and a Gus Nyquist away from being in a playoff position.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I don’t know how Jack Johnson gets any ice time. He was so bad last night and I don’t know how he’s out there on the penalty kill.

He shouldn’t dress, there is no reason to have seven defense men when Jack Johnson is terrible

 

[Cheddarcheese]

poor coaching lost us that game. having Silinger, ZAR, MO, Provy and Mateychuk on with 35 sec to win the game is crazy.
playing with 7 d is such a bad call

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Even before Johnny's passing, Wads acknowledged that we were short on forwards. And so naturally he waits.. and waits ... and then signs three leftover guys that no one else wanted. We don't know the circumstances with Tex or Alex Nylander, maybe they had to go, and neither are very good. And certainly Roslovic and Laine were poor fits that had to go. But it's the GMs job to replace players when he sends others out. He hasn't done that. And I don't think missing two forwards to injury is that unusual, if that isn't the norm, it sure seems to be for teams I follow.

I don't think Elvis has been decent. Not his worst either, but he hasn't been good. I still wish we had bought him out last summer, the case for it was strong enough at the time.

I think he's been OK given the team play in front of him. We've had tons of breakdowns with how aggressive we play on the offensive side yet we still give up a ton of shots on goal and get outshot.

That being said, people criticize someone so much based on their paycheck around here. Imagine paying Shesterkin 11.5 a year in the future for him to be putting up the numbers he's got this year. But he probably gets a pass because his team is sh*t. We realistically aren't that much better. We are overachieving this year so far and still a defensive mess across the board. I saw the post game comments last night and soeone in the media gave Evason the opportunity to throw Elvis under the bus at the end and all he did was commend him for making a couple of huge saves when needed and say he had no issue with his play. he didn't bite on the easy opportunity that as thrown at him.

In reality we are not a good team and still have lots of holes that will take time to work out from under.