i think we'll see an uptick for him on PP - last season, he had only 6 PP points in 77 games (vs the 20 in 55 he had in '21-'22). with brunette coming in to power a high octane PP, i can only assume we'll lean on him to be a go-to guy on the PP, and should HOPEFULLY see a boost in his overall stats bc of it
That's the hysteria (not from you) that makes me roll my eyes...you can criticize this particular signing as a bad contract. But to say one potentially bad mid-level contract in 2025-27 - when the cap should be up by then - is now gonna prevent the team from making moves is just the height of paranoia and not really based in any fact. I'm not normally even in favor of the long-term deals for second-tier type players but this is an exception and hopefully pretty much the only one.
Oh there's hysteria all right, at least among the posters who are more worried about the cap than about winning.
This contract is going to be hurting us in a few years. He is already 31 and signed for 5 more years at a cap hit he is not worth from year 1.
if it's hurting us in a few years, we're spending to cap. if we're spending to cap, we're likely winning, so it'd be a great thing to complain about. 6M of a projected 90M is 6.66% (nice) of the cap, and if we're going to be spending 93.3% of that on other people, i doubt this will be the worst contract
It's called being risk averse. Some people here don't want to make moves unless it's a 110% no-brainer. But you're not going to win unless you eventually start taking risks in some fashion or other. Every team that's winning eventually has to shed contracts no matter how well or poorly they manage the cap, the key is if you manage it well you don't have 5-7 contracts you need to get rid of at once a la Philly.
Disagree strongly.
Copp was more productive, had better possession numbers and is more than 3 years younger.
He's also from Michigan and signed with Detroit, so we'd likely have had to pay more, if he would have had any interest at all to begin with.
palat shoots more, hits more, has better PP #s, and has a better sh%
Yeah I don't get the copp is better argument. This is a good deal. It's probably a million too much per and a year too long but we can deal with that and he'll bring an element this team is missing.
I don’t understand why people keep saying this. We JUST watched a team miss out on Johnny Gaudreau because the cost to move their bad contract was a fist round pick and they didn’t want to pay it.
They were signed one at a time.
i get the possession metric argument, but copp is a center - he SHOULD have good possession #s. but it wouldn't be his role here. @RSeen i agree w you that copp is a good get (esp his defense), but palat is great for other reasons, and utilization is an important consideration.
wrote this before, but if 6M is killing us in 4 years time (if the cap is up to 90M), then we're spending to cap. 6M/90M is 6.66%, and there's no way we're spending 93.33% on other players, where Palat's will be the worst contract
