Buffalo Bills Week 17: New York Jets (4-11) at Buffalo (12-3), 12/29, 1:00 PM, CBS

[Dirty Dog]

Im still a bit confused that some posters dont think Allen and Lamar are neck and neck as far as caliber of players. Lamar doesnt have Allen's peak performances, but I do think he's a bit more consistent and doesnt have Allen's lows (like the HOU game), though Allen has improved leaps and bounds this year with consistency. Honestly, unless Allen goes off these next two games- I think Lamar wins another MVP. And in a league where narratives are made on hardware, it's going to be tough for me to justify Allen>Lamar. I just wish Lamar was in the NFC. He's so fun to watch. And, Im thrilled to have a QB that's consistently in the MVP conversation.

*I say all this knowing the Henry has had a big impact on Lamar this season*

They couldn’t be more different of players in the playoffs, and the sample size is pretty large.

Also, I think Allen relies much less on a system and his running ability.

 

[TheStorm]

Well this was about as bad of an outcome as possible for today lmao. I'm so sick of thinking about the MVP at this point. Super Bowl is the prize baby let's get ittttt

 

[misterchainsaw]

I dunno maybe it's the hangover from watching the two games today, but I have a hard time seeing us beating either Baltimore or Kansas City in the playoffs with how they've found the missing pieces of their game recently. I'm just not sure the talent is there on defense. We knew it was a little bit of a reset coming in, and I'm thrilled with 14-3/13-4 - I think they significantly overachieved this season on both sides of the ball. Maybe they can get Baltimore at home if Jackson's non-elite playoff play (and Baltimore's baffling playoff playcalling) continues, but I dunno.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Matt Ress]

Defense has taken a step back since Milano s return. I know there's many more factors but hoping we can plug one two holes by playoff time

 

[HaNotsri]

I dunno maybe it's the hangover from watching the two games today, but I have a hard time seeing us beating either Baltimore or Kansas City in the playoffs with how they've found the missing pieces of their game recently. I'm just not sure the talent is there on defense. We knew it was a little bit of a reset coming in, and I'm thrilled with 14-3/13-4 - I think they significantly overachieved this season on both sides of the ball. Maybe they can get Baltimore at home if Jackson's non-elite playoff play (and Baltimore's baffling playoff playcalling) continues, but I dunno.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

I think our offense will step up to a whole different level in the playoffs. Our defense will be bad but if they control the clock and score on every drive the other team will have to match that. Sounds unrealistic but if we want a sb Allen and company will have to play like true legends.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I dunno maybe it's the hangover from watching the two games today, but I have a hard time seeing us beating either Baltimore or Kansas City in the playoffs with how they've found the missing pieces of their game recently. I'm just not sure the talent is there on defense. We knew it was a little bit of a reset coming in, and I'm thrilled with 14-3/13-4 - I think they significantly overachieved this season on both sides of the ball. Maybe they can get Baltimore at home if Jackson's non-elite playoff play (and Baltimore's baffling playoff playcalling) continues, but I dunno.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's Baltimore's year, unfortunately. Better than the Chiefs, at least!

Baltimore - Philly (assuming Hurts brain is ok) is my prediction!

 

[Jim Bob]

I think it's Baltimore's year, unfortunately. Better than the Chiefs, at least!

Baltimore - Philly (assuming Hurts brain is ok) is my prediction!

Baltimore is interesting in that they seem the take a step back in the playoffs. Much like the Bills.

I won't be shocked if the Ravens lay an egg in the playoffs.

Yep, if those results happen, I totally see McDermott playing starters for a half and then resting them, and maybe even doing the same thing next week too. It's what he did in 2020 for the last game against Miami (and the 2 seed wasn't even guaranteed going into that game, though homefield advantage was off the table).

If the seed isn't locked in I don't see him resting starters against the Jets. If it's still in doubt next week we could see a similar "we don't really care about the seed" resting of players, but not two weeks out.

With the Ravens winning yesterday, I fully expect the Bills to play Sunday like a must win game. And McD can dangle the carrot for the starters that they will get an easy week for the Pats game if they take care of business against the Jets.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Baltimore is interesting in that they seem the take a step back in the playoffs. Much like the Bills.

I don’t think the bills taken a step back in the playoffs. Allen is statistically at his best in the playoffs even. They have simply lost to KC three of the last four years, with two of those coming down to the last possession.

They laid one egg against the bengals, but I think a lot things were going on there

 

[Der Jaeger]

Looking at PFFs top 50 free agents.

Haason Reddick, edge. Beane and McDermott would need to check out why didn't report to the Jets, but if that checks out, he'd be a good add. Would fill the RE pass rush need.

Malcolm Koonce, edge. Another edge option but coming off an injury.

Baron Browning, edge. Young, injured a bit, but productive.

Dayo Odeyingbo, edge. Young, and a bigger end.

Chase Young, edge. He's still young. Does Beane take a swing?

Charvarius Ward, CB. I don't think Beane will spend for DJ Reed, but Ward is supposedly on a down year. Could be a nice buy low option if Douglas doesn't re-sign.

Carlton Davis, CB. Might be too costly but another CB option.

Byron Murphy, CB. Playing well in Minnesota. Young.

Javon Holland, S. Down season but the best safety in the class, if Beane wants an upgrade. Young and would cost a lot. I can't tell if he's an RFA.

Talanoa Hufanga, S. Another 49er coming off an injured season. Buy low? Still young.

Camryn Bynum, S. Young and productive.

Justin Reed, S. Would help the Bills and take something away from the Chiefs.

Osa Odighizuwa, DT. Pass rushing DT if Beane is looking to add.

Levi Onwuzurike, DT. Another young pass rushing DT.

Milton Williams, DT. Another young pass rushing DT.

Hollywood Brown, WR. Still young and has great speed. Not an ideal outside receiver with his size but could replace Cooper. Worth watching the rest of the season.

Darius Slayton, WR. Speed as an outside receiver.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[Dubi Doo]

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If Adams is out, that'd help out my fantasy odds! Good to see Milano and Douglas trending well. We need Rapp and Hamlin back, though. For their flaws, the defense seems better with them in, though I did like what I saw from Bishop during the DET game.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Looking at PFFs top 50 free agents.

Haason Reddick, edge. Beane and McDermott would need to check out why didn't report to the Jets, but if that checks out, he'd be a good add. Would fill the RE pass rush need.

Malcolm Koonce, edge. Another edge option but coming off an injury.

Baron Browning, edge. Young, injured a bit, but productive.

Dayo Odeyingbo, edge. Young, and a bigger end.

Chase Young, edge. He's still young. Does Beane take a swing?

Charvarius Ward, CB. I don't think Beane will spend for DJ Reed, but Ward is supposedly on a down year. Could be a nice buy low option if Douglas doesn't re-sign.

Carlton Davis, CB. Might be too costly but another CB option.

Byron Murphy, CB. Playing well in Minnesota. Young.

Javon Holland, S. Down season but the best safety in the class, if Beane wants an upgrade. Young and would cost a lot. I can't tell if he's an RFA.

Talanoa Hufanga, S. Another 49er coming off an injured season. Buy low? Still young.

Camryn Bynum, S. Young and productive.

Justin Reed, S. Would help the Bills and take something away from the Chiefs.

Osa Odighizuwa, DT. Pass rushing DT if Beane is looking to add.

Levi Onwuzurike, DT. Another young pass rushing DT.

Milton Williams, DT. Another young pass rushing DT.

Hollywood Brown, WR. Still young and has great speed. Not an ideal outside receiver with his size but could replace Cooper. Worth watching the rest of the season.

Darius Slayton, WR. Speed as an outside receiver.

Koonce would add to the UB contingent, too.

 

[misterchainsaw]

If Adams is out, that'd help out my fantasy odds! Good to see Milano and Douglas trending well. We need Rapp and Hamlin back, though. For their flaws, the defense seems better with them in, though I did like what I saw from Bishop during the DET game.

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing Bishop in for one of them (preferably Hamlin) but having both out and Lewis (or Jackson) have to play is a step too far.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing Bishop in for one of them (preferably Hamlin) but having both out and Lewis (or Jackson) have to play is a step too far.

I don't know if Hyde is in game shape to play, but if he is, elevating him and putting him next to Bishop for a full game could do wonders for Bishop long-term. They'd probably get torched repeatedly by Adams and Wilson, but having a guy who could really coach up Bishop in this defense out there for every snap with him would be the best learning experience he could get. If our seed was 100% locked in it totally would be worth it...maybe next week...

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Schefter: Pete Carroll has shown an interest in the Bears job.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don’t think the bills taken a step back in the playoffs. Allen is statistically at his best in the playoffs even. They have simply lost to KC three of the last four years, with two of those coming down to the last possession.

They laid one egg against the bengals, but I think a lot things were going on there

In the Allen/McDermott era, the Bills have won the games against the lower tier playoff opponents and they haven't gotten over the hump with the higher end team, specifically the Bengals and Chiefs.

And given all the regular season success against KC followed by playoff losses, I think it is fair to say they have taken a step back in the playoffs.

Allen has stepped up in the playoffs. But, the defense, especially the DL, have had multiple bad playoff games lately.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

2024 Bills offense finally offering Josh Allen assistance with yards after the catch

After years of nothing, Joe Brady and company are chipping in.

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[Kupo]

Bart really is a special kind of stupid.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

 

[whiplash]

Let's see if I can figure embedding out... This is too good.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Saw a stat that QBs have a rating of 120+ when targeting Douglas. Has he fallen off that much? CB2 will be a big need next season.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

SalC mentioned on wgr today the "possibility" that Hyde could be activated for the Jets game. fyi