Buffalo Bills Week 17: New York Jets (4-11) at Buffalo (12-3), 12/29, 1:00 PM, CBS

ValJamesDuex

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Releasing Eli from the PS shocks me
Sal said they have 6 active D tackles currently and they like having the veteran presence from Phillips/Jefferson. They now have 7 DT/7 DE up and down the full roster. Soloman's development and not exposing him to waivers is the reason Toohill went down to the p/s.

They also had to open a roster spot for OT Grable last week who they like.
 

Der Jaeger

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Between the state of the Sabres, and the holiday slow down, I'm watching lots of past CFB games, with who the Bills could take in mind.

There's a variation of the Steeler's Iron Curtain D which most 40 front zone defenses have not used. It's the Jim Bates D. A lot of folks remember Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor. But they don't remember why they were freed up to be so dominate. Bates had Tim Bowens and Daryl Gardener at DT, and the Dolphins did what they could to maintain two 1T DTs during Bates' time.

Think Tampa 2, Wannstedt's spillage defense, Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys, or McDermott's Bills. Then put in two NTs. That's Bates defense. The DTs allow smaller DEs and LBs to fly around the field because the DTs eat up blockers. This type of defense is what I'd hope McDermott considers.

Looking at players who Buffalo could pick, here's who I like currently. This is based on current projections of where the Bills will pick, the Bills current needs, and who's projected to be available. Eg: I'm not spending time watching Travis Hunter or Cam Ward.

1st round, picking around 30. The player I really like here is Tykeik Williams, the DT from Ohio State. He reminds me of a young Pat Williams. He's big but can move. He can play NT, 1T DT, or 3T DT. I think he'd be a great add.

2nd round, looking at two players around pick 62. Players who I like:
- Jared Ivey, DE, Mississippi. Can play LE and RE, so he would work with Rousseau. Power end who can drive OTs back.
- Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame. Former WR with athleticism, high IQ, and a knack for big plays. Almost seems like a too-perfect McDermott pick.
- Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas. Poor man's Xavier Worthy who can stretch defenses.
- Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky. Immovable NT or 1T DT.
- Jalen Royals, WR Utah State. Big, fast, and explosive. Would be a good vertical option.
- Charles Grant, OT, William & Mary. Looks like the second coming of Jason Peters to me.

4th round, around 110:
- Barrett Carter, LB Clemson. Fast flowing LB. Bills break a lot of LBs so they'll always be looking for more.
- Ollie Gordon, RB, Oklahoma State. Hammer of a back who would compliment the current runners as a short yardage option.
- Rod Moore, S, Michigan. Another smart S with zone experience.
- Connor Colby, IOL. Developmental C/G from a program that produces a lot of linemen.

4th round, picks 130 and 138, so 2 players in this range:
- Harold Perkins, LB, LSU. Same comment as Carter.
- Jonah Monheim, OL, USC. Played every position well at USC. Smart.
- Riley Leonard, QB, Notre Dame. Extremely poor man's Josh Allen, but same type of skillset so Brady wouldn't need to change the overall concepts much if Allen is out. Developmental pick; Green Bay used to do this all the time.
- Denzel Burke, CB, Ohio State. Playing lower than expectations, could be a buy low on a CB talent, and the Bills have an excellence track record of coaching CBs.

5th-6th round, picks 173, 179, 184 so three players from this range:
- Lander Barton LB Utah. Same comment as Carter.
- Jack Nelson OT Wisconsin. Depth and developmental player.
- CJ West DT Indiana. Developmental interior DL.
- Tony Grimes, CB UNLV. Same comment as Burke.
- Cam Horsley DT Boston College. Developmental interior DL.

6th round, pick 206:
- Jason Marshall, CB, Florida. Same comment as Burke.
- Raheim Sanders, RB South Carolina. Same comment as Gordon.
- Nazir Stackhouse, DT Georgia. True NT who is in buy low status.
- Bryce Foster, C Kansas. Buy low developmental C.
 

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1st round, picking around 30. The player I really like here is Tykeik Williams, the DT from Ohio State. He reminds me of a young Pat Williams. He's big but can move. He can play NT, 1T DT, or 3T DT. I think he'd be a great add.

Williams would be a dream. It felt like he had a hand in every play for Ohio State in that Michigan game but the broadcasters just have an obsession with Sawyer this year and he gets all the attention.
 

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Even with a banged up Mahomes I still dont see the Texans winning. That KC front is going to wreck havoc on that horrible Oline. I predict a long day for CJ. I would love to be proven wrong though.
 
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Between the state of the Sabres, and the holiday slow down, I'm watching lots of past CFB games, with who the Bills could take in mind.

There's a variation of the Steeler's Iron Curtain D which most 40 front zone defenses have not used. It's the Jim Bates D. A lot of folks remember Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor. But they don't remember why they were freed up to be so dominate. Bates had Tim Bowens and Daryl Gardener at DT, and the Dolphins did what they could to maintain two 1T DTs during Bates' time.

Think Tampa 2, Wannstedt's spillage defense, Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys, or McDermott's Bills. Then put in two NTs. That's Bates defense. The DTs allow smaller DEs and LBs to fly around the field because the DTs eat up blockers. This type of defense is what I'd hope McDermott considers.

Looking at players who Buffalo could pick, here's who I like currently. This is based on current projections of where the Bills will pick, the Bills current needs, and who's projected to be available. Eg: I'm not spending time watching Travis Hunter or Cam Ward.

1st round, picking around 30. The player I really like here is Tykeik Williams, the DT from Ohio State. He reminds me of a young Pat Williams. He's big but can move. He can play NT, 1T DT, or 3T DT. I think he'd be a great add.

2nd round, looking at two players around pick 62. Players who I like:
- Jared Ivey, DE, Mississippi. Can play LE and RE, so he would work with Rousseau. Power end who can drive OTs back.
- Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame. Former WR with athleticism, high IQ, and a knack for big plays. Almost seems like a too-perfect McDermott pick.
- Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas. Poor man's Xavier Worthy who can stretch defenses.
- Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky. Immovable NT or 1T DT.
- Jalen Royals, WR Utah State. Big, fast, and explosive. Would be a good vertical option.
- Charles Grant, OT, William & Mary. Looks like the second coming of Jason Peters to me.

4th round, around 110:
- Barrett Carter, LB Clemson. Fast flowing LB. Bills break a lot of LBs so they'll always be looking for more.
- Ollie Gordon, RB, Oklahoma State. Hammer of a back who would compliment the current runners as a short yardage option.
- Rod Moore, S, Michigan. Another smart S with zone experience.
- Connor Colby, IOL. Developmental C/G from a program that produces a lot of linemen.

4th round, picks 130 and 138, so 2 players in this range:
- Harold Perkins, LB, LSU. Same comment as Carter.
- Jonah Monheim, OL, USC. Played every position well at USC. Smart.
- Riley Leonard, QB, Notre Dame. Extremely poor man's Josh Allen, but same type of skillset so Brady wouldn't need to change the overall concepts much if Allen is out. Developmental pick; Green Bay used to do this all the time.
- Denzel Burke, CB, Ohio State. Playing lower than expectations, could be a buy low on a CB talent, and the Bills have an excellence track record of coaching CBs.

5th-6th round, picks 173, 179, 184 so three players from this range:
- Lander Barton LB Utah. Same comment as Carter.
- Jack Nelson OT Wisconsin. Depth and developmental player.
- CJ West DT Indiana. Developmental interior DL.
- Tony Grimes, CB UNLV. Same comment as Burke.
- Cam Horsley DT Boston College. Developmental interior DL.

6th round, pick 206:
- Jason Marshall, CB, Florida. Same comment as Burke.
- Raheim Sanders, RB South Carolina. Same comment as Gordon.
- Nazir Stackhouse, DT Georgia. True NT who is in buy low status.
- Bryce Foster, C Kansas. Buy low developmental C.

Maybe it's a sentimental pick...but I'd love for them to grab Shaun Dolac late in the draft. No idea on fit or anything, just getting another local kid who you know would go through a wall for this team.
 

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Williams would be a dream. It felt like he had a hand in every play for Ohio State in that Michigan game but the broadcasters just have an obsession with Sawyer this year and he gets all the attention.
I love Sawyer. He’s a better version of Chris Kelsay. But he’s almost exclusively a LE, and Rousseau is best at LE. I do not like when the Bills put Miller at LE and Rousseau at RE.

That’s why I got off the Sawyer train.

Maybe it's a sentimental pick...but I'd love for them to grab Shaun Dolac late in the draft. No idea on fit or anything, just getting another local kid who you know would go through a wall for this team.
LB is a good position for local kids too. The Bills use a lot of undersized LBs so it works.
 
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Zman5778

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How good of a tandem is Dawkins/Brown? They have to be one of better tandems in the league. They've been lights out this season. Id assume theyre both ranking pretty highly among tackles.
When healthy, I think they're squarely behind Philly's and Detroit's duo.

There's certainly a case to put them 3rd, though I think Minny and San Diego and Tampa Bay also have legit cases.

So they're certainly in the top 5 discussion and if not actually in the top 5.....REAL close to it.
 

SwordsgoneWild

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And it's not like the Broncos' offense is GOOD.

Assuming we get the 2 seed.....gimme the Chargers, please.
Yes. The more I see the more that I want these SoCal chumps coming up to us in January. As I told someone over on the football board , they have no one on offense besides McConkey and Dobbins. It's all Herbert....Bring it on.
 

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Think I’m rooting for Denver to win this with LAC playing NE and Vegas to close. They should win one of those matchups which would eliminate Cincy. Want nothing to do with that offense
 

SwordsgoneWild

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What a horrible half by the Broncos. Damnit. I swear if the Bengals somehow get the #7 seed now lol. They better beat Cincy next week. I'm already assuming that the Bengals will beat Cleveland on Sunday.

Denver has Cincy and KC left. All they gotta do is win 1 damn game.
 

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What a horrible half by the Broncos. Damnit. I swear if the Bengals somehow get the #7 seed now lol. They better beat Cincy next week. I'm already assuming that the Bengals will beat Cleveland on Sunday.

Denver has Cincy and KC left. All they gotta do is win 1 damn game.
Probably best to rely on the Colts winning out (have Bengals beat on conference record tiebreak) to block out Cincinnati. Could also ask that of Miami, but f*** the Dolphins. Colts have Titans/Giants/Jaguars on the schedule.
 

SwordsgoneWild

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Probably best to rely on the Colts winning out (have Bengals beat on conference record tiebreak) to block out Cincinnati. Could also ask that of Miami, but f*** the Dolphins. Colts have Titans/Giants/Jaguars on the schedule.
Dolphins still gotta go play in Cleveland. Can't depend on them to play in the cold .....I think the Colts winning out is a decent bet though divisional games are always tricky .
 

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