Buffalo Bills Week 17: New York Jets (4-11) at Buffalo (12-3), 12/29, 1:00 PM, CBS

[Waterfowlist]

Needing additional tests is rarely a good sign. What a bummer. Hopefully it isn’t season ending.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I'd just go all in on Garrett. Beane can move on from Miller at the end of the season, and Garrett's contract is not prohibitive. And Cleveland doesn't carry that much of a cap hit. I'd start the conversation with the 2025 and 2026 1sts and see what they do.

Buffalo with Garrett could beat KC and win the Super Bowl with the way the team is playing.

 

[TageGod]

Bills D line is Trash. No one will convince me otherwise. They feast on slow developing offenses with pass rush and get ANNIHILATED by any team with a good O line. They got WORKED the entire game, and ends cant set an edge. Bills are gonna set a record for most run yards given up in a single game against the Lions. The line never tackles RB's.

 

[Zman5778]

I have absolutely no idea how next week is going to go.

Flacco is such a boom or bust QB at this point.

If I am Indy I'm trying to ram Taylor down our throats all game. I'm not sure they have a good enough passing game to get us into light boxes like Miami/Baltimore does though.

Their defense seems to be settling in, holding Houston to 23 on the road, holding Minnesota to 21 on the road.

Indy, for all their flaws, haven't had a game that's been decided by more than 8 points either way......and if you ignore last night, they haven't been in a game that's been decided by more than six points. So literally every game they've been in has been a one possession game at the end. So they've been in every single game.

With Flacco, it's kind of easy to see why -- Pittman and Downs are zone-busters and Downs is fast enough to escape man coverage. Pierce is an elite downfield threat, even if he doesn't do a whole lot else. So as long as Flacco stays on schedule and the O-line holds for 2-3 seconds, their passing offense is set up to be dink-and-dunk. Their run game is....well, it's JT. Every Bills fan knows what he can do. And the play-action bombs to Pierce off of JT can be devastating.

Their defense is anchored by a high-quality middle -- DT's Buckner and Stewart and MLB Franklin. BUT, their defense is straight-up BAD at run defense and not a whole lot better at defending the pass, though they can really rush the passer.

Minnesota prevented the big plays AND bottled up JT. If we do that, we should win easy. That said, I don't think our defense is as good as Minny's......so I think it'll be a 30-24 type game.

 

[Jim Bob]

So you're trading 20 pounds for the ability to run a route. Against ends and linebackers, I'd take that tradeoff all day. There are plenty of videos out there of Washington rag dolling ends and linebackers. So it's not like not being 300 pounds is dragging his effectiveness down.

Why not have 4 TEs? They are regualarly in 3 TE formations. I'd have 4 TEs on the team and dress all 4. TEs can play STs.

I don't see that adding all that much value given that they already have Kincaid and Knox to run routes.

Who are you not dressing to add the extra TE?

I don't see the Bills opting to move away from Gilliam. That would be the most obvious choice. But, do they see Washington playing as many STs snaps as Gilliam does?

I highly doubt that.

Needing additional tests is rarely a good sign. What a bummer. Hopefully it isn’t season ending.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853454660549390524

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Zman5778]

I don't see that adding all that much value given that they already have Kincaid and Knox to run routes.

Who are you not dressing to add the extra TE?

I don't see the Bills opting to move away from Gilliam. That would be the most obvious choice. But, do they see Washington playing as many STs snaps as Gilliam does?

I highly doubt that.

I don't even see why trading for a TE....specifically Washington....is even a discussion point at all.

Washington has played 54% of all of Pittsburgh's offensive snaps. He's obviously a piece that Pittsburgh isn't trading in any way, shape or form.

Plus, if you go here: Offense Personnel Tendency | SumerSports

We're in 1 TE sets well over half the time

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853200485198504433

 

[misterchainsaw]

- man who bought afc championship tickets when Davis scored with 13 seconds left
E: also like, that diggs drop happened with over half of the quarter left. They aren’t winning the game there. The missed fg ties the game with plenty of time left for a go-ahead fg. If you want to say that if everything that went wrong for the bills instead went right I guess I can’t argue that the result would be different but that’s not how it goes

More to the point, I think, is that the Bills had 2nd and 9 at the KC 26 down 3 at the two minute warning. I think most of us would take that scenario again in the divisional round if offered. (at least if it's against BAL or KC). Their players just made more plays than ours down the stretch last year. Another in a long line of (sometimes literally) coin flip games against them that have been going our way in the regular season and their way in the playoffs.

Light boxes is how the Bills live on defense.

Their base defense is 4-2-5 Nickel with two high safeties. I doubt the Bills change that against the Colts.

They should be able to run blitz a little more effectively without all the different dangerous misdirection options that Miami can bring, though.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I don't see that adding all that much value given that they already have Kincaid and Knox to run routes.

Who are you not dressing to add the extra TE?

I don't see the Bills opting to move away from Gilliam. That would be the most obvious choice. But, do they see Washington playing as many STs snaps as Gilliam does?

I highly doubt that.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853454660549390524

We're mixing apples and oranges. I'm not comparing a big blocking TE to Knox or Kincaid. Or even Morris. My point is that Buffalo could be more effective with a big blocking TE who could achieve the blocks which the additional offensive lineman is making AND be a pass threat.

I don't even see why trading for a TE....specifically Washington....is even a discussion point at all.

Washington has played 54% of all of Pittsburgh's offensive snaps. He's obviously a piece that Pittsburgh isn't trading in any way, shape or form.

Plus, if you go here: Offense Personnel Tendency | SumerSports

We're in 1 TE sets well over half the time

Washington is someone I beat the drum for in the spot Dorian Williams was drafted at.

It's not the frequency of TE formations - it's the amount the 6th offensive lineman is used. I'd rather have a big TE do that work because you can also threaten the defense with a pass catcher.

 

[Jim Bob]

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[Husko]

I'll just repeat, that if we want to add a plus blocking tight end (for whatever reason), the obvious answer is Manhertz, who is a better blocker, on a worse team, and who the team is less committed to. And, their GM and our GM are friends.

 

[Husko]

We're mixing apples and oranges. I'm not comparing a big blocking TE to Knox or Kincaid. Or even Morris. My point is that Buffalo could be more effective with a big blocking TE who could achieve the blocks which the additional offensive lineman is making AND be a pass threat.

Washington is someone I beat the drum for in the spot Dorian Williams was drafted at.

It's not the frequency of TE formations - it's the amount the 6th offensive lineman is used. I'd rather have a big TE do that work because you can also threaten the defense with a pass catcher.

The bills jumbo package is the most efficient and effective personnel grouping in the NFL. They could trade for prime Gronk and they wouldn't just their 6 offensive lineman package any less.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Smoot to IR, have to think Beane is working the phones today.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Smoot to IR, have to think Beane is working the phones today.

Damn. I love this man's energy. Sucks...

 

[Der Jaeger]

I'll just repeat, that if we want to add a plus blocking tight end (for whatever reason), the obvious answer is Manhertz, who is a better blocker, on a worse team, and who the team is less committed to. And, their GM and our GM are friends.

I'll repeat (since this was meant for me), that getting a big blocking TE instead of using a 6th OL is simply to add the threat of a pass from the position.

The bills jumbo package is the most efficient and effective personnel grouping in the NFL. They could trade for prime Gronk and they wouldn't just their 6 offensive lineman package any less.

By which metrics?

And that's not true.

 

[Zman5778]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853543227472912675

If this guy has anything left in the tank at all..........might be an interesting depth option.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Injury update from SalC

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853551430658867375

 

[ValJamesDuex]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853543227472912675

If this guy has anything left in the tank at all..........might be an interesting depth option.

If they trade or release Edwards I'm expecting Hyde to sign

 

[Selanne00008]

LETS GO TAMPA!

 

[Gras]

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Bills D line is Trash. No one will convince me otherwise. They feast on slow developing offenses with pass rush and get ANNIHILATED by any team with a good O line. They got WORKED the entire game, and ends cant set an edge. Bills are gonna set a record for most run yards given up in a single game against the Lions. The line never tackles RB's.

theyre trash but they have to play a good o line to be stopped

youd think trash would get beat by everyone

 

[Husko]

I'll repeat (since this was meant for me), that getting a big blocking TE instead of using a 6th OL is simply to add the threat of a pass from the position.

By which metrics?

And that's not true.

Yards per play

 

[SundherDome]

McDermott needs to chat with Todd Bowles