PATRIOTS GDT WEEK 17 1 PM - LA Chargers visit Foxborough - WCVB (5), WMUR (9), NFL Network, 98.5 WBZ-FM

[GlenFeatherstone]

Godchaux thinks the Fire Mayo chants were ridiculous. No buddy you and your teammates play was ridiculous. The fans are just telling the truth.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Mayo should get another year to me unless Vrabel is serious

No one who’s any good or has options wants to come here

Kraft would owe all those coaches a lot of cash

And anyone coming likely would be hated after first loss or first questionable call

The person we need doesn’t exist

If they fire Mayo and Ben Johnson comes (0,0 he will) he better win immediately and he better not make mistakes

clean house and this time next year the 5th choice we clean house and clean house

There are no magical guys coming to coach an impatient fan base, living in a shitty area, with crap westher and no talent under a cheap owner (Bob) and his hot tempered meddling son

Mayo deserves nothing.

 

[LouJersey]

Glad McConkey f***ing torched them.

Robert, please, I emplore you.

Fire this entire coaching staff and front office, admit your mistake, and actually Doug. A proper coaching and GM search this off-season.

There has been nothing positive about this team outside of Maye and Gonzalez. Literally nothing

Was there ever any talk about why they wanted to deal down and not take McConkey? Made zero sense then and still doesn't.

 

[BradPark22]

Was there ever any talk about why they wanted to deal down and not take McConkey? Made zero sense then and still doesn't.

Injury history while playing at Georgia was concerning

 

[Troublesome 85]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148801-keion-white-urges-patriots-to-make-changes-after-chargers-loss-what-are-we-doing

 

[DKH]

He has plenty, can't fix a cut through a bandaid. Rip it off and start fresh.

He is beyond cheap if there isn’t a camera around.

If there were Girl Scouts selling cookies and no one around he’d blow right by them

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10148801-keion-white-urges-patriots-to-make-changes-after-chargers-loss-what-are-we-doing

BWAHAHAHAH seriously how about doing what you’re told

 

[BruinsFan37]

Just stahp with the Vrabel talk. The Pats need a total and complete change in the coaching staff/front office if they want to get things going in the right direction. Vrabel is just a nicer looking version of Mayo (i.e. former Pats player turned head coach) because he had a couple of winning seasons in Tennessee. His last two with the Titans were sub .500, including the last one where he went 6-11 and got canned.

But to make a total and complete change (and have it work) you need the owner to make the right moves, and right now I don't have faith in the Krafts to do that.

 

[TheRealChrisKelly]

He is beyond cheap if there isn’t a camera around.

If there were Girl Scouts selling cookies and no one around he’d blow right by them


BWAHAHAHAH seriously how about doing what you’re told

just shut up and dribble right?

 

[Troublesome 85]

He is beyond cheap if there isn’t a camera around.

If there were Girl Scouts selling cookies and no one around he’d blow right by them


BWAHAHAHAH seriously how about doing what you’re told

Told by an incompetent coach and DC?

 

[JRull86]

Just stahp with the Vrabel talk. The Pats need a total and complete change in the coaching staff/front office if they want to get things going in the right direction. Vrabel is just a nicer looking version of Mayo (i.e. former Pats player turned head coach) because he had a couple of winning seasons in Tennessee. His last two with the Titans were sub .500, including the last one where he went 6-11 and got canned.

But to make a total and complete change (and have it work) you need the owner to make the right moves, and right now I don't have faith in the Krafts to do that.

Disagree, Vrabel is a good coach. The benefit of hiring him would also be that he could attract legit coordinator talent (IE McDaniels) while focusing on the defense.

Was there ever any talk about why they wanted to deal down and not take McConkey? Made zero sense then and still doesn't.

Slot guy, and they wanted an outside guy. Still stupid. THis roster didn't have the type of talent to not be taking BPA.

 

[LouJersey]

Disagree, Vrabel is a good coach. The benefit of hiring him would also be that he could attract legit coordinator talent (IE McDaniels) while focusing on the defense.


Slot guy, and they wanted an outside guy. Still stupid. THis roster didn't have the type of talent to not be taking BPA.

Yeah I mean w Pop and McConkey in the slot that would have been pretty unstoppable in the future IMO.

 

[Johnnyduke]

 

[RoccoF14]

Chargers also added Joe Alt in the first round. They might have added 3 potential Pro Bowl players.

Kraft should take a long, hard, look at what the Spanos’ have done. That franchise was a joke, until they hired Hortiz, Alexander and Harbaugh to run that team.

 

[Johnnyduke]

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Just stahp with the Vrabel talk. The Pats need a total and complete change in the coaching staff/front office if they want to get things going in the right direction. Vrabel is just a nicer looking version of Mayo (i.e. former Pats player turned head coach) because he had a couple of winning seasons in Tennessee. His last two with the Titans were sub .500, including the last one where he went 6-11 and got canned.

But to make a total and complete change (and have it work) you need the owner to make the right moves, and right now I don't have faith in the Krafts to do that.

Vrabel never coached under Bill. Not a single season as an assistant I think you have to sort of pull him out from all the former Patriots. Never had a QB but won with garbage like Tannehill.


I don't think there are any slam dunk guys like Harbaugh sitting around waiting for a job. If you go Vrabel than a brand new director of ops with no ties to us that's OK.

 

[DKH]

just shut up and dribble right

Absolutely- bang on

 

[DKH]

Vrabel never coached under Bill. Not a single season as an assistant I think you have to sort of pull him out from all the former Patriots. Never had a QB but won with garbage like Tannehill.


I don't think there are any slam dunk guys like Harbaugh sitting around waiting for a job. If you go Vrabel than a brand new director of ops with no ties to us that's OK.

Ty Law said on Tuesday’s with Ty they fire Mayo all coaches will be leery coming in and he will have to back up Brinks Truck and he made signs of a truck backing up

Mayo should be back if I was the owner. Got to give him 2 years

The team played hard generally and there were no scandals

If Mayo got caught getting a happy ending by 2 gals at a massage parlor and I’m Kraft I’d fire him but he didn’t have any

1. Develop Maye
2. Win 3 games get a top 3 pick
3. Find out who can play who can’t and who’s a bitch

All accomplished along with many lessons to avoid Starting with media interaction. I’d give 90% nothing but vanilla short answers

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Ty Law said on Tuesday’s with Ty they fire Mayo all popcoaches will be leery coming in and he will have to back up Brinks Truck and he made signs of a truck backing up

Mayo should be back if I was the owner. Got to give him 2 years

The team played hard generally and there were no scandals

If Mayo got caught getting a happy ending by 2 gals at a massage parlor and I’m Kraft I’d fire him but he didn’t have any

1. Develop Maye
2. Win 3 games get a top 3 pick
3. Find out who can play who can’t and who’s a bitch

All accomplished along with many lessons to avoid Starting with media interaction. I’d give 90% nothing but vanilla short answers

These were pretty much my thoughts until yesterday.

But I think the situation is too toxic. Another bad years and guys like Gonzalez might be requesting trades.

Elliott Wolf should be hung for drafting Polk let alone keep his job so if he's not gone there is no point getting rid of Mayo of course.

Since we whiffed so badly on the rest of the draft we probably need 2 more of the team being bad but it's going to cost us literally everyone but Maye that is ok and on the roster.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Ty Law said on Tuesday’s with Ty they fire Mayo all coaches will be leery coming in and he will have to back up Brinks Truck and he made signs of a truck backing up

Mayo should be back if I was the owner. Got to give him 2 years

The team played hard generally and there were no scandals

If Mayo got caught getting a happy ending by 2 gals at a massage parlor and I’m Kraft I’d fire him but he didn’t have any

1. Develop Maye
2. Win 3 games get a top 3 pick
3. Find out who can play who can’t and who’s a bitch

All accomplished along with many lessons to avoid Starting with media interaction. I’d give 90% nothing but vanilla short answers

Playing hard and having no scandals should not be the barometer. This is the worst coached team in the league. They are constantly not prepared, take horrible penalties, have game plans of pop warner teams and all the players have regressed. a top 3 pick this year isnt much more valuable than any other top 10 picks. Who is able to evaluate what players can play? No one on this coaching staff or front office. They need to cut bait now and bring in some real football people. This can easily slide back into the Rod Rust era.

Mayo has shown nothing to indicate that he is capable of coaching a high school team.

 

[DKH]

Unless you are getting Vrabel & McDaniels I’m 100% bringing Mayo back

Earth to Patriots fans this area, roster, and what owner will pay next coach is second rate

Only Vrabel will fans be patient - any other outsider will be hated by this fan base within 8 games and then what lol

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Unless you are getting Vrabel & McDaniels I’m 100% bringing Mayo back

Earth to Patriots fans this area, roster, and what owner will pay next coach is second rate

Only Vrabel will fans be patient - any other outsider will be hated by this fan base within 8 games and then what lol

2nd rate is about 5 ratings higher than Mayo. He cant be back

 

[DKH]

Playing hard and having no scandals should not be the barometer. This is the worst coached team in the league. They are constantly not prepared, take horrible penalties, have game plans of pop warner teams and all the players have regressed. a top 3 pick this year isnt much more valuable than any other top 10 picks. Who is able to evaluate what players can play? No one on this coaching staff or front office. They need to cut bait now and bring in some real football people. This can easily slide back into the Rod Rust era.

Mayo has shown nothing to indicate that he is capable of coaching a high school team.

disagree 100%

Give me your specific plan - names of real football people who want to be here and paid

 

[Nothingbutglass]

disagree 100%

Give me your specific plan - names of real football people who want to be here and paid

Im not paid to have a plan but im sure pretty a list of names will be surfacing soon. Kraft's better have a plan, this one has failed. This is 1 of 32 jobs, with millions in cap space and a franchise QB. a mediocre gm/coach could make this a respectable team. its still a desirable job. Right now its not NFL caliber.

 

[Troublesome 85]

 

[Johnnyduke]

Absolute dog food slate of games today

Packers-Vikings and that's it