Buffalo Bills Week 15: New England (3-11) at Buffalo (11-3), 12/22, 4:25 PM (flexed), CBS

[Dirty Dog]

WGR and Cover 1 folks in rare form on twitter going after McDermott

I mean, for what…

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Still love what they have done with our pass catchers. They get open. And they catch the ball. Spread it around baby!

Everybody Eats!

 

[Zman5778]

WGR and Cover 1 folks in rare form on twitter going after McDermott

For what???

 

[Tsujimoto]

Did Allen suffer a broken hand?

It looked awful purple when they showed them taping it on the sideline. If it's not broken it's at least badly bruised.

 

[misterchainsaw]

I mean, for what…

Agenda pushers are going to agenda push.

WNY sports media is insufferable. Mike Danger went on a national show and called the Bills "an 8 win team". Most local media go on national media to talk up their team (seriously they're almost all homers) and Danger comes out with an anti-Bills take that he could make 2:1 or 3:1 odds on if he bet on in Vegas.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

It looked awful purple when they sowed them taping it on the sideline. If it's not broken it's at least badly bruised.

Allen said X rays negative in the post game press conference.

 

[Husko]

I mean, for what…

For what???

Run-heavy game script and not going for it on 4th down at the end

 

[Zman5778]

I generally liked the game Brady called, but I was surprised they didn’t go with any bootleg play actions off the stretch runs that kept getting stuffed on 1st down in the second half.

Brady isn't going to empty the playbook on a team that couldn't stop basically anything we did.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Run-heavy game script and not going for it on 4th down at the end

Brady will feature the run game for a more balanced attack. Better get used to that. It's a good thing BTW.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Run-heavy game script and not going for it on 4th down at the end

Yes, how dare they go run-heavy against *check notes* the worst team in the NFL against the run last year. (I know it's not you saying this)

 

[Zman5778]

Run-heavy game script and not going for it on 4th down at the end

.........jesus christ. I was actually annoyed at points that we went away from the run given how well it was working at times.

And the 4th down at the end? Kick a FG and make a TD beat you.....don't get the 1st and a FG beats you, and Arizona had the favorable wind.

Totally agree with the FG call.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Here's one minor gripe I have with McDermott (and to be fair, the vast majority of coaches do this and I still don't get it).

I'm assuming the Bills won the toss and deferred. Because everyone wants that "double up" opportunity, and sure, the Bills got it this time so it paid off. But half the time it's the team that receives who gets the last possession of the half so there's no double up, so that's not a sure thing you'll even have that chance.

Meanwhile, by deferring, they have to choose to receive in the second half, leaving the other team to pick the direction. Meaning it's the team who receives first who gets to pick the direction in the 4th quarter. Which when the wind is what it was today, might have been a nice thing to have...

In a dome, or no wind? Defer. When it's windy? Receive and make sure you pick the direction in the second half. And putting Allen and offense out there first isn't going to hurt you, especially if you can score and force the other team to keep playing catch up.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Frankly certain members of the media (and a certain couple of posters here) just want to get McDermott fired and they will say anything to further that cause.

Morons don't know what they have - which is sad considering the drought just happened.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

.........jesus christ. I was actually annoyed at points that we went away from the run given how well it was working at times.

And the 4th down at the end? Kick a FG and make a TD beat you.....don't get the 1st and a FG beats you, and Arizona had the favorable wind.

Totally agree with the FG call.

FG would only tie in that situation, not win.

I think if it was closer, you go for it, but it was what, 4th and 3? That's a tougher call.

 

[HaNotsri]

I'm pleasantly surprised that the d showed up for the second half. Cardinals looked good on offense.

Allen made it extremely hard for himself. I love him but every game is a hero's journey. He's unique in all of sports. I hope he's ready for friday the 13th

 

[Zman5778]

FG would only tie in that situation, not win.

I think if it was closer, you go for it, but it was what, 4th and 3? That's a tougher call.

....counting/math is hard. Getting the FG still means it takes a TD to win.

And totally agreed. I think it was either 4th and 3 or at best 4th and a long 2. If it was "Josh into the pile" territory, then go for it. But in this circumstance, I totally agree with the FG call.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

Looking at the 4th down play again, I think the fact that the ball hit Benford's outstretched arm is why they didn't throw the flag. He does peak back a couple of times as well as the ball's in the air - though he's definitely not looking back the whole time.

It was actually a good play, and not interference.

 

[Zman5778]

Allen made it extremely hard for himself

How? By fumbling once?

I mean, Allen played a pretty gosh-darned pristine game. He really only missed the long throw to MVS, but that wasn't an awful miss.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Run-heavy game script and not going for it on 4th down at the end

I get going for it on 4th down instead punting, but even advanced stats I think say you kick the FG in that situation. And even in hindsight that extra FG was huge.

And I don’t think it was even that conservative. They ran the ball, but with success and the run on 3rd and 2 was an Allen run which is fine and not conservative.

 

[Zman5778]

It was actually a good play, and not interference.

If the roles were reversed, I'd be SCREAMING for a flag for PI there.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Here's one minor gripe I have with McDermott (and to be fair, the vast majority of coaches do this and I still don't get it).

I'm assuming the Bills won the toss and deferred. Because everyone wants that "double up" opportunity, and sure, the Bills got it this time so it paid off. But half the time it's the team that receives who gets the last possession of the half so there's no double up, so that's not a sure thing you'll even have that chance.

Meanwhile, by deferring, they have to choose to receive in the second half, leaving the other team to pick the direction. Meaning it's the team who receives first who gets to pick the direction in the 4th quarter. Which when the wind is what it was today, might have been a nice thing to have...

In a dome, or no wind? Defer. When it's windy? Receive and make sure you pick the direction in the second half. And putting Allen and offense out there first isn't going to hurt you, especially if you can score and force the other team to keep playing catch up.

I mean, not only did they double up, but they also turned the game around in the 3rd quarter with the wind. Conditions can change as well.

I think McDermott has been one of the best coaches in the league in terms of time management near the end of the 1st half, so I do value that possible double dip quite a bit more than the wind even on a windy day (which is also not guarenteed to remain windy)

 

[tmlms13]

Still love what they have done with our pass catchers. They get open. And they catch the ball. Spread it around baby!

Same, as talented as Diggs was not having that "need to keep him happy" thought in the back of your mind is underrated

 

[misterchainsaw]

....counting/math is hard. Getting the FG still means it takes a TD to win.

And totally agreed. I think it was either 4th and 3 or at best 4th and a long 2. If it was "Josh into the pile" territory, then go for it. But in this circumstance, I totally agree with the FG call.

I wish I remembered to check the 4th down bot on X in the moment. Now that it's not one of the last 5-6 posts it made I can't see it because I don't have an account

 

[Tsujimoto]

Allen said X rays negative in the post game press conference.

That's good to hear

 

[Waterfowlist]

I’m surprised how little discussion there is on Groot. 3 sacks including a sack fumble. The man was a beast today.