NFL GDT: Week 12: Harbaugh Family Reunion

Ace

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Buffalo can clinch the division next week. That is hilarious. This was their step back year. They’re paying Diggs more to not be here than the rest of the receivers combined. They moved on from the two great safeties that ran their D and haven’t had their allpro LB almost the whole year.

Rest of the division really having special years.
 

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THE GIANTS SHOULD HAVE SIGNED SAQUON AND TRADED UP FOR JAYDEN DANIELS FRANCHISE SAVED
I don’t think part 2 was on the table.

As for part 1. Running back production isn’t in the top 20 problems this year…and we have ample proof they can lose just fine with Barkley…who wouldn’t be having this season there. He never did. Because you don’t have to worry about literally anything else in NY.
 

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I don’t think part 2 was on the table.

As for part 1. Running back production isn’t in the top 20 problems this year…and we have ample proof they can lose just fine with Barkley…who wouldn’t be having this season there. He never did. Because you don’t have to worry about literally anything else in NY.

I'm just having a laugh at the report that the Giants' GM 14-year old kid told him to sign Saquon and draft Daniels. Instead we live in this timeline.

Barkley should be in the MVP conversation but it is just a QB award now

If Lamar wasn't having one (the?) of the best seasons of all-time, there'd be an argument.
 

Ace

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I'm just having a laugh at the report that the Giants' GM 14-year old kid told him to sign Saquon and draft Daniels. Instead we live in this timeline.
I’d like a 30 for 30 on how Schoen went from being a part of drafting Josh Allen to being the guy who payed Daniel Jones.
If Lamar wasn't having one (the?) of the best seasons of all-time, there'd be an argument.
Stats didn’t matter last year. Lamar got the award for finishing first while being woefully statistically behind others. Should he get it for better stats now if the team finishes fifth or sixth? Especially with Henry having like…about as good a case as anyone on the same offense? Last year’s award says otherwise.
 

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If you want your guy to be MVP, it's very simple: get the bye
That tanks Lamar’s case this year.

It also means the QB award isn’t even for most valuable QB. It means guy who plays QB on the best team. Can be carried by top D and run game…and you get to be MOST VALUABLE.
 

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I actually thought that PI was fair. He put his arm around his waist as he went up to get the ball - it hindered his jump (before the ball was there), and defender wasn’t turned around.
 

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I’d like a 30 for 30 on how Schoen went from being a part of drafting Josh Allen to being the guy who payed Daniel Jones.

Stats didn’t matter last year. Lamar got the award for finishing first while being woefully statistically behind others. Should he get it for better stats now if the team finishes fifth or sixth? Especially with Henry having like…about as good a case as anyone on the same offense? Last year’s award says otherwise.

There was no way Lamar wasn't getting it last year with the way his team dominated the field and how he lit up absolutely everyone on primetime. Henry wouldn't be having the year he's having if it wasn't for the threat of Lamar - which transcends stats. Now he's got the stats again (as he did in '19) and the worst pass defense at the league, 7-4. If his play of the year in week 5 isn't a microcosm of his season, I don't know what is.
 

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That tanks Lamar’s case this year.

It also means the QB award isn’t even for most valuable QB. It means guy who plays QB on the best team. Can be carried by top D and run game…and you get to be MOST VALUABLE.

Lamar Jackson was Baltimore's leading rusher in 2023. Yep. That guy who throws like he does also lead the league's best rushing attack in yards last year.

He was the MVP. Most influential player in the league. Allen's right behind him and just as important.
 

Ace

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There was no way Lamar wasn't getting it last year with the way his team dominated the field and how he lit up absolutely everyone on primetime. Henry wouldn't be having the year he's having if it wasn't for the threat of Lamar - which transcends stats. Now he's got the stats again (as he did in '19) and the worst pass defense at the league, 7-4. If his play of the year in week 5 isn't a microcosm of his season, I don't know what is.

Sure. But last year happened. He won an award over a guy who finished the two seed with FIFTEEN more TDs, a higher completion percentage. More yards passing and rushing…and for all they want to make out of picks…to a guy whose offense had less drives end in QB turnovers and punts than Baltimore. Literally…less drives that ended in giving the ball to the other team.

So I don’t care if he breaks every NFL record in history this year. Standard has been set. Literally by this guy.
 

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