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[TehDoak]

Oh I agree that Allen shouldn't have won it last year. Lamar was the right call. Just annoyed that the rationale for Lamar last year is the same rationale for Allen this year but now the goalposts seem to be moving back to a stats-driven argument.

It's weird. My guess is that Allen still wins the MVP with Lamar getting the All Pro vote as basically their way to splitting the difference. All Pro goes to "best stats" (though by that logic Burrows should have won it), MVP goes to "Most valuable to their team".

I live in Ohio and count several Bengals fans among my close friends and the degree to which they believe that the NFL has a conspiracy against them is INSANE.

Likely just mirroring what their team is saying. The Bengals might be the thinnest skinned franchise I've ever seen.

 

[Jim Bob]

There’s Something About Josh

The Ringer NFL Show · Episode

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Bills fans know what we have with Josh Allen.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Waterfowlist]

Allen no longer the favorite for MVP. It’s a bummer. I don’t know what else he could do to earn it.

I guess that only matter when it’s convenient to your argument

 

[misterchainsaw]

I mean, it's most valuable player. How can that not be Josh if we only have one other pro-bowler on the original ballot, no other any team all-pros, and a coach who's not even in coach of the year discussions?

We're tied for the 3rd best team in football in point differential, which is generally accepted to be a decent proxy for team performance, and would have been 2nd if we gave the slightest of shits about the 17th game. We were 4th in DVOA, one of the best advanced metrics, 4th in FPI (3rd offensively) and essentially finished 2 games ahead of Baltimore.

What are we just doing it all with voodoo and smoke and mirrors or something? It's ridiculous how little respect this team is getting. Both ESPN and NFL.com have analysts predicting a Denver win. The most likely upset in the AFC in the 1st round is Baltimore, because they're missing their #1 WR, divisional opponent, and their offense's history in the playoffs. And God I hope it happens at this point.

 

[tsujimoto74]

There’s Something About Josh

The Ringer NFL Show · Episode

t.co

Bills fans know what we have with Josh Allen.

Voters can keep being wrong. It only delegitimizes them, not Josh. We know we’ve got. They can give Lamar as many fake MVPs as they want; we all know Josh is the better player and goes 1st in a redraft 100 times out of 100.

 

[DapperCam]

Team with the most points scored the last 5 seasons: Bills
1st team All Pros on offense in that time: Diggs (2020)

Lamar Jackson career total TDs: 199
Josh Allen career total TDs: 260

Lamar Jackson career total yards: 26,232
Josh Allen career total yard: 30,576

Lamar Jackson career record: 74-29
Josh Allen career record: 76-35

Lamar Jackson MVPs: 2 (soon to be 3)
Josh Allen MVPs: 0

Makes sense…

 

[Der Jaeger]

This is perfect. Bulletin board material going into the playoffs. Beautiful.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Team with the most points scored the last 5 seasons: Bills
1st team All Pros on offense in that time: Diggs (2020)

Lamar Jackson career total TDs: 199
Josh Allen career total TDs: 260

Lamar Jackson career total yards: 26,232
Josh Allen career total yard: 30,576

Lamar Jackson career record: 74-29
Josh Allen career record: 76-35

Lamar Jackson MVPs: 2 (soon to be 3)
Josh Allen MVPs: 0

Makes sense…

They aren’t even close…and that’s regular season stats.

It’s a real yikes if you compare playoff stats

 

[buffalowing88]

Such a stupid, stupid thing to be worried about. Allen is going to be remembered more fondly than Lamar when it's all said and done because he played in more important playoff games.

 

[Der Jaeger]

My guy Sawyer making a huge play. He’s still an option for Buffalo if Babich thinks Rousseau can be as effective as a right end. Sawyer is a Chris Kelsay clone who is almost exclusively a LE.

 

[DapperCam]

My guy Sawyer making a huge play. He’s still an option for Buffalo if Babich thinks Rousseau can be as effective as a right end. Sawyer is a Chris Kelsay clone who is almost exclusively a LE.

I bet he'll be there in the 3rd round. Might make sense for Buffalo since we run so much of a rotation in McDermott's scheme.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I bet he'll be there in the 3rd round. Might make sense for Buffalo since we run so much of a rotation in McDermott's scheme.

I think Sawyer is going to have a similar draft experience as Kelsay. Kelsay was projected as a 1st rounder going into the season, had a good season at Nebraska, but tested poorly at the combine, and went in the 2nd round.

 

[yahhockey]

In the grand scheme of the world does it matter of Josh Allen has won an MVP or if someone on the roster is first team All Pro? No, of course not, Super Bowl or bust.

Does it get old in a hurry when this team and players are overlooked and/or disrespected year after year after year when some of them deserve to be recognized? Yes

Maybe we should thank the voters for saving the team cap room by not having MVPs and first team All Pros on the roster. They are more expensive to keep, lol.

 

[K8fool]

It's weird. My guess is that Allen still wins the MVP with Lamar getting the All Pro vote as basically their way to splitting the difference. All Pro goes to "best stats" (though by that logic Burrows should have won it), MVP goes to "Most valuable to their team".






Likely just mirroring what their team is saying. The Bengals might be the thinnest skinned franchise I've ever seen.

This was the Best gift Josh and the O line and our "weak" Dline and our "crap" d could get.

Thank You AP , nfl and the players.

Love It

Show up drunk pissed but humble ( kind to broncos fans ) and remind the NFL what it feels like consistently, whatever bs goes on ; with complete Faith on every Denver possession , to play at Rich\highmark .

I'm actually in. awe of Josh Allen , we are lucky to watch this entire team and coaching staff as we've waited weeks for a game that matters.

It's quite possible we May be prepared to play the broncos who beat us last year.., just maybe ...

Go D

Go Buffalo.

 

[Jim Bob]