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[TehDoak]

Oh I agree that Allen shouldn't have won it last year. Lamar was the right call. Just annoyed that the rationale for Lamar last year is the same rationale for Allen this year but now the goalposts seem to be moving back to a stats-driven argument.

It's weird. My guess is that Allen still wins the MVP with Lamar getting the All Pro vote as basically their way to splitting the difference. All Pro goes to "best stats" (though by that logic Burrows should have won it), MVP goes to "Most valuable to their team".

I live in Ohio and count several Bengals fans among my close friends and the degree to which they believe that the NFL has a conspiracy against them is INSANE.

Likely just mirroring what their team is saying. The Bengals might be the thinnest skinned franchise I've ever seen.

 

[Jim Bob]

There’s Something About Josh

The Ringer NFL Show · Episode

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Bills fans know what we have with Josh Allen.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Waterfowlist]

Allen no longer the favorite for MVP. It’s a bummer. I don’t know what else he could do to earn it.

I guess that only matter when it’s convenient to your argument

 

[misterchainsaw]

I mean, it's most valuable player. How can that not be Josh if we only have one other pro-bowler on the original ballot, no other any team all-pros, and a coach who's not even in coach of the year discussions?

We're tied for the 3rd best team in football in point differential, which is generally accepted to be a decent proxy for team performance, and would have been 2nd if we gave the slightest of shits about the 17th game. We were 4th in DVOA, one of the best advanced metrics, 4th in FPI (3rd offensively) and essentially finished 2 games ahead of Baltimore.

What are we just doing it all with voodoo and smoke and mirrors or something? It's ridiculous how little respect this team is getting. Both ESPN and NFL.com have analysts predicting a Denver win. The most likely upset in the AFC in the 1st round is Baltimore, because they're missing their #1 WR, divisional opponent, and their offense's history in the playoffs. And God I hope it happens at this point.

 

[tsujimoto74]

There’s Something About Josh

The Ringer NFL Show · Episode

t.co

Bills fans know what we have with Josh Allen.

Voters can keep being wrong. It only delegitimizes them, not Josh. We know we’ve got. They can give Lamar as many fake MVPs as they want; we all know Josh is the better player and goes 1st in a redraft 100 times out of 100.