Post-Game Talk: WCQF GM5 | Canucks lose to Predators | 1-2 (Zadorov) | Back to Nashville

[Luck 6]

Don't think there's any excuses we can come up with here.

You can't win games scoring one goal.

PP failed to score, PK looked good but let one in.

Silovs and Zadorov the only real bright spots from this game.

Yes you can. Especially in the playoffs. We are more than capable of locking that game down.

I was at the game, after the goal the crowd went nuts, and the players seemed to follow that pace rather than playing a boring lock down game. That led to Joshua’s stupid hit, a PP, and a goal against. We didn’t play smart hockey with the lead.

 

[nuxnux1]

Gotta get rid of mik and trim some fat this off season, have to find a player to go with petey. Absolutely have to find a way to keep Zadorov, he completely changes the dynamic of this team.

 

[biturbo19]

Rick needs to make some f***in adjustments. Dump and chase ain’t working and the forwards need to generate more rush chances. I feel like I’m watching a Travis Green team

The thing is...this team is overall, slow as heck. You can't just manufacture extra "rush chances" without overwhelming speed. At least, not outside of what the Canucks under Riktok have done well, which is counterattacking and capitalizing on bad/risky breakouts and over aggressive neutral-zone play from the other team.


Mikheyev is one of the only players on this team who can genuinely "create" rush chances through the neutral zone (and he's been doing it here and there)...yet half the fanbase are screaming at the top of their lungs to bench him for Podkolzin for some reason.


This doesn't look anything like a Travis Green team. They're still playing with tons of structure and purpose. The Preds just aren't giving them anything. And it's a slow ass team with approximately 3 players who have "plus" long speed to generate anything that way.


Mikheyev - who is beyond snakebit at this point. Zero finish.

Hughes - a defenceman.

Zadorov - borderline and also a defenceman and isn't necessarily a guy you want consistently rushing the puck, despite his success doing it when he picks his spots like tonight.


Beyond that...nobody on this team really has the speed or is capable of carrying the puck dynamically through the neutral zone to create more "rush chances". They have to rely on east-west "tic-tac-toe" stuff climbing the ladder through the neutral zone (which Nashville is stifling), or just chip it in and chase tactics. Trying to set up a forecheck posture that can turn the puck over to create quality chances. Which Nashville are largely avoiding by simply playing a similar "simple" style right back at them.


It's just not a "fast" team at all. There are some "quick" players in short areas, but that's not what you need to play a wide open run 'n gun rush trading game.

 

[DS7]

Maybe the refs shouldn't be ****ing babies and call biased games just because a player on one team calls them out.

These are supposed to be professionals, not high school kids.

I mean there's the ideal.
And there's the real world sadly.

 

[MS]

I've been a Pettersson fan since his days in the SEL.

He is straight up costing this team the season with how he's playing.

You cannot have a top line center suddenly stop all production. The entire team dynamic is thrown off. It's way more impactful than Demko being injured IMO.

This team is built around 4 superstar players (Hughes, Pettersson, Miller, Demko).

Two of them are missing and Hughes is clearly banged up. Shouldn’t be surprising that it’s a slog when that’s the case.

Take Rantanen and Makar off Colorado and they aren’t gonna look great either.

 

[Nopefully]

We scored in OT in game 4 with Cole out with Hughes, not Hronek. That says something. Hronek has been bad all series long

 

[Quinning]

This team is built around 4 superstar players (Hughes, Pettersson, Miller, Demko).

Two of them are missing and Hughes is clearly banged up. Shouldn’t be surprising that it’s a slog when that’s the case.

Take Rantanen and Makar off Colorado and they aren’t gonna look great either.

People bash Pettersson (and rightly so) but it's not like Miller has been all-world either. Outside of Boeser, he's probably been the least of our problems, but he's not at full force.

 

[AzNightmare]

It seems with the playoff portion of the season, the value of some players have shifted around.
I wonder what would have happened if contract talks actually waited until off season as EP initially wanted.
Maybe could have gotten a better deal.

 

[Peen]

Honestly thought Pettersson was good in this game. Both him and Hoglander played their best games of the series.

But yeah, gotta put the puck in the net at some point.

Win game 6.

 

[canuckking1]

The thing is...this team is overall, slow as heck. You can't just manufacture extra "rush chances" without overwhelming speed. At least, not outside of what the Canucks under Riktok have done well, which is counterattacking and capitalizing on bad/risky breakouts and over aggressive neutral-zone play from the other team.


Mikheyev is one of the only players on this team who can genuinely "create" rush chances through the neutral zone (and he's been doing it here and there)...yet half the fanbase are screaming at the top of their lungs to bench him for Podkolzin for some reason.


This doesn't look anything like a Travis Green team. They're still playing with tons of structure and purpose. The Preds just aren't giving them anything. And it's a slow ass team with approximately 3 players who have "plus" long speed to generate anything that way.


Mikheyev - who is beyond snakebit at this point. Zero finish.

Hughes - a defenceman.

Zadorov - borderline and also a defenceman and isn't necessarily a guy you want consistently rushing the puck, despite his success doing it when he picks his spots like tonight.


Beyond that...nobody on this team really has the speed or is capable of carrying the puck dynamically through the neutral zone to create more "rush chances". They have to rely on east-west "tic-tac-toe" stuff climbing the ladder through the neutral zone (which Nashville is stifling), or just chip it in and chase tactics. Trying to set up a forecheck posture that can turn the puck over to create quality chances. Which Nashville are largely avoiding by simply playing a similar "simple" style right back at them.


It's just not a "fast" team at all. There are some "quick" players in short areas, but that's not what you need to play a wide open run 'n gun rush trading game.

Nothing moves faster than the puck. With proper use of the neutral zone to generate speed, they could create more rush chances. Right now, the forwards and defense are spread out, and they aren't generating any speed through the neutral zone with quick and short passes. It's all telegraphed stretch passes that are being picked off, relying on broken plays

 

[crazychimp]

Onto the next one can’t dwell on that call now whether it was interference or not game is over.

They have two chances to close this one out and have to be able to finish on those plays. Suter is due how many posts has he hit in this series? Pettersson had his chances this game. The power play was a miss tonight that also needs to make its appearance again.

 

[Peen]

It seems with the playoff portion of the season, the value of some players have shifted around.
I wonder what would have happened if contract talks actually waited until off season as EP initially wanted.
Maybe could have gotten a better deal.

They wouldn’t have. Pettersson would have been able to hold a gun to their head about taking the QO and walking himself to free agency.

 

[Quinning]

We scored in OT in game 4 with Cole out with Hughes, not Hronek. That says something. Hronek has been bad all series long

Someone is going to seriously regret paying Hronek big money. He's a 30 point 2-way defenceman who isn't particularly great at either of those ways.

 

[EpochLink]

It's infuriating Tocchet will go to the Lotto line or move Lindholm up for one goddamn shift only to right back to Mikheyev/Pettersson/Hoglander. They can't f***ing score you doofus. How many games does it take to show you Mikheyev and Pettersson are terrible together?

I'm really getting fed up with him making zero adjustments when shit obviously isn't working.

Well, adjustments are a coming by game 6.
That was pathetic for a closing out game.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I don't even have to look at the Oilers board to know that they are going to say we should be down 3-2 not up 3-2.

 

[VanCanucks53]

What did he say?

Nashville player (was it Forsberg?) has been trying to dodge hits all series long and how he turned into the hit so what was Dakota supposed to do. Said he can’t say more about reffing as he doesn’t want to be fined.

 

[brock hughes007]

Thought Silvos,was awsome,,bad break on that 2nd goal but very impressed with this kid.

 

[nuxnux1]

Nashville player (was it Forsberg?) has been trying to dodge hits all series long and how he turned into the hit so what was Dakota supposed to do. Said he can’t say more about reffing as he doesn’t want to be fined.

Evangelista

 

[OilerTitanFan]

One loss and this board falls apart like there was an earthquake.

 

[Quinning]

Could you imagine if Forsberg wasn't playing like complete shit right now?

He's been terrible and had a hilarious dive on the Zadorov crosscheck.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

We scored in OT in game 4 with Cole out with Hughes, not Hronek. That says something. Hronek has been bad all series long

Oh, there's no question Hronek has been the worst player on the team. Pettersson and his struggled are well worn beaten horse but he's still mostly fine outside of scoring. And unlike Hronek, who is playing with what may be the Norris winner, Pettersson has nothing.

That being said, it isn't on Hronek to score goals.

 

[MS]

People bash Pettersson (and rightly so) but it's not like Miller has been all-world either. Outside of Boeser, he's probably been the least of our problems, but he's not at full force.

JT Miller has 6 points in the series.

He’s been an adventure on the PP at times but he’s been terrific both ways at ES.

It isn’t even the same planet as Pettersson. Miller has probably been our best forward. Pettersson has been totally MIA.

 

[AzNightmare]

I don't even have to look at the Oilers board to know that they are going to say we should be down 3-2 not up 3-2.

I don't blame them though... Last time I checked, Nashville has been outshooting Vancouver every game.

 

[Leif Rohlin]

Honestly thought Pettersson was good in this game. Both him and Hoglander played their best games of the series.

But yeah, gotta put the puck in the net at some point.

Win game 6.

I thought Pettersson looked better tonight. Still a ways to go but showing signs of life.

 

[Petey O]

I don't even have to look at the Oilers board to know that they are going to say we should be down 3-2 not up 3-2.

Who cares?