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GDT: WCQF: Game 7 Blues @ Jets 6PM CST FDSNMW/TBS

Result sucks, but I went into the series and into game seven expecting a loss, so in the end, it’s not all that surprising other than the way in which they lost.

As an aside, and coming from somebody who has already seen the blues win a championship, that had to have been pretty darn cool for the folks in Winnipeg last night. I’m really happy for all of them, even if it came at the expense of our blues. But when you do stupid things you get bad results, and the blues absolutely deserved to lose that game and that series; so in the end all we can do is hope for better next year.

Overall, it was still a very exciting season and a surprising outcome from where we expected them to be when the season began.
 
You complained saying he didn't try. If he wasn't trying then he would be doing that shit PLD did to get jettisoned from the CBJ not leading the team in multiple offensive categories. There's a difference between saying a player isn't trying and thinking their compete level isn't up to where it should be.

You were happy with how he was winning board battles and fighting for the puck?
 
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Well I said it before, I am just happy this team made it here. Had to bail last night for OT2,

Watched away from the desktop.

Dreamt all night the goal got called back and in the dream woke up to the Blues winning 4-3! lol

This team has lots of promise, need to figure out the D, develop our prospects, and see where we go!
 
The Walker no-call had me very annoyed. I understand swallowing the whistle in double OT in an elimination game, but it was incredibly blatant and obvious. Similar to Schenn’s penalty for attempting to clear and having the puck go over the glass, which was called.

The entire of regulation led to that, however. Faulk and Buchnevich mishandled the ending so bad.

Yes it really annoyed me after re watching it too again because I think Blues would have had 3 on 2. It would have been a 3 on 2 if Walker wasn't tripped.

I get the swallow the whistle mentality to an extent of letting you know few more cross checks, slashes, etc go, but an obvious trip like SHOULD BE CALLED.

But instead in OT, the only thing that are called are penalties on a breakaway or puck over the glass. It is extremely frustrating.
 
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Disappointed to say the least. 4th straight road game where the Blues didnt skate a full 60 mins. They need to start stocking 5 hour energy drinks on their plane or something. Very Bluesy way to choke that.

Regardless, not too upset, once Dallas rallied past the Avs I think it became apparent that regardless of last night's game we're going to be seeing a Dallas/Vegas WCF.

I wasn't on the board last night and haven't read the thread from the beginning, but the real question is did @TheDizee forgive Kyrou since he opened the scoring and had the best Blues scoring chance in OT?
 
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Didn’t sleep much. Such a depressing way to go out. There are still some major dead weight on this team. Sundqvist. Leddy. Future looks 100x brighter than it did on May 1, 2024 and I’ll try to keep that in perspective after such a brutal L. For those wondering, the rumor is Holloway tore his oblique in that stupid play in the corner which required surgery. f***. I’m still depressed.
 
Didn’t sleep much. Such a depressing way to go out. There are still some major dead weight on this team. Sundqvist. Leddy. Future looks 100x brighter than it did on May 1, 2024 and I’ll try to keep that in perspective after such a brutal L. For those wondering, the rumor is Holloway tore his oblique in that stupid play in the corner which required surgery. f***. I’m still depressed.
Whatever rando
 
Deepest respect to the blues fan base you guys absolutely brought it! only place I can think of that is equal to the white out. your crowd was absolutely electric during the home games and you could visibly see the energy it gave you team! Happy to have witnessed that series.
 
Yikes. I just saw the highlight packs.
Are you guys collectively okay?
We'll be fine.
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Deepest respect to the blues fan base you guys absolutely brought it! only place I can think of that is equal to the white out. your crowd was absolutely electric during the home games and you could visibly see the energy it gave you team! Happy to have witnessed that series.
Finish this thing and bring Winnipeg it's first cup. You guys deserve a winner.
 
I remember quite a few games in 2019 where we were protecting a lead late, and our guys (Petro especially) iced the puck endlessly instead of skating or chipping it out. Was maddening, and I was sure it was going to bite us in the ass during that run …

Well, I guess the bill finally came due :laugh:

Frustrating that this is still a problem with this team, though.

Also, and this isn’t a problem unique to the Blues, but one thing I am so tired of seeing is dumping the puck in when we have no intent of retrieving or even pressuring. Pass the puck back and retain possession while you regroup.

In a game where possession matters so much, I’m surprised forfeitting the puck is still so common. Some team will eventually figure this out to great effect. Please don’t make me become an NHL coach to teach this revolutionary strategy of not giving the other team the puck … :sarcasm:
 
Didn’t sleep much. Such a depressing way to go out. There are still some major dead weight on this team. Sundqvist. Leddy. Future looks 100x brighter than it did on May 1, 2024 and I’ll try to keep that in perspective after such a brutal L. For those wondering, the rumor is Holloway tore his oblique in that stupid play in the corner which required surgery. f***. I’m still depressed.
I didn't sleep much either.

I agree, we still have far too much dead weight. I think that's what's bothering me - it's dead weight, not youthful inexperience. We're not the Ducks. This isn't a team with zero playoff experience getting their first taste of what it's like to try and lock down a game. The players we had out there at the end of this game are either 10+ year vets with multiple playoff runs or have Rings themselves. Sunny, Thomas, Schenn, and Parayko were all out there at the end. Buch, Suter, and Faulk too. Every single one of those guys should know better.

I'm still so f***ing pissed at Parayko. All he had to do was get involved in that board battle with 12 seconds left to go and help Thomas pin the puck to let the clock expire. Instead, he lurked outside and watched three Jets players dig while Thomas tried to keep the puck in place. Parayko is such a waste of a 6'6 human it's not even funny sometimes. Like, look at this:

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What the f***ing f*** are you doing there dude? There's no reason to stand outside that scrum. Put your huge f***ing body on at least one of those guys and shove his face in the f***ing glass and kill the clock. I mean just absolutely inexcusable from the guy who's supposed to be our franchise D.

I also want to say that Monty deserves a good amount of blame for this as well. I have two major criticisms - the first is that whatever we are doing in man down situations isn't working. We had the most abysmal PK under him for much of the season until the winning streak. We also gave up the most 6 v 5 goals in the league - something Boston had an issue with as well when he was there. I wonder how much of that is Claude Julien's influence (He's an assistant for us now), as some people have mentioned that Boston still plays man down situations with a lot of the elements of Julien's system, and it hasn't worked out well for them either.

The other issue I have with Monty is that he gets far too conservative far too early. I can understand shortening your bench a bit with say under 5 minutes to go, but he started doing all sorts of stupid shit with 15 minutes left in the game. We kept putting extra faceoff guys out there during D-zone draws, and then when we would win them, the extra guy would scurry off the ice. This would f*** up our breakout, and then subsequently our forecheck. That's why we looked like we were turtling, b/c Monty kept playing stupid games with the lines. Bolduc didn't see the ice once after the 15 minute mark of the third period. Joseph got like two shifts. Kyrou was playing hopscotch - he would pop on, we'd lose possession b/c no one was on the right side, and then he'd have to pop back off. The Joseph-Sunny-Bolduc line had one of the best xGA/60 of any line that played a minimum of 150 minutes - they were just as good, if not better, then the WTF line at holding down the fort - yet by Monty's actions you would never know it. That leads to gassed out players by the end of the game, and then you have situations like we just saw. There's no reason to shorten the bench with 15 minutes to go and up by 2. You roll the lines and continue to play your game, you don't f*** around and give away all the momentum.

I know I should be excited about the long view, b/c it still looks bright, but man I simply cannot right now.
 
I didn't sleep much either.

I agree, we still have far too much dead weight. I think that's what's bothering me - it's dead weight, not youthful inexperience. We're not the Ducks. This isn't a team with zero playoff experience getting their first taste of what it's like to try and lock down a game. The players we had out there at the end of this game are either 10+ year vets with multiple playoff runs or have Rings themselves. Sunny, Thomas, Schenn, and Parayko were all out there at the end. Buch, Suter, and Faulk too. Every single one of those guys should know better.

I'm still so f***ing pissed at Parayko. All he had to do was get involved in that board battle with 12 seconds left to go and help Thomas pin the puck to let the clock expire. Instead, he lurked outside and watched three Jets players dig while Thomas tried to keep the puck in place. Parayko is such a waste of a 6'6 human it's not even funny sometimes. Like, look at this:

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What the f***ing f*** are you doing there dude? There's no reason to stand outside that scrum. Put your huge f***ing body on at least one of those guys and shove his face in the f***ing glass and kill the clock. I mean just absolutely inexcusable from the guy who's supposed to be our franchise D.

I also want to say that Monty deserves a good amount of blame for this as well. I have two major criticisms - the first is that whatever we are doing in man down situations isn't working. We had the most abysmal PK under him for much of the season until the winning streak. We also gave up the most 6 v 5 goals in the league - something Boston had an issue with as well when he was there. I wonder how much of that is Claude Julien's influence (He's an assistant for us now), as some people have mentioned that Boston still plays man down situations with a lot of the elements of Julien's system, and it hasn't worked out well for them either.

The other issue I have with Monty is that he gets far too conservative far too early. I can understand shortening your bench a bit with say under 5 minutes to go, but he started doing all sorts of stupid shit with 15 minutes left in the game. We kept putting extra faceoff guys out there during D-zone draws, and then when we would win them, the extra guy would scurry off the ice. This would f*** up our breakout, and then subsequently our forecheck. That's why we looked like we were turtling, b/c Monty kept playing stupid games with the lines. Bolduc didn't see the ice once after the 15 minute mark of the third period. Joseph got like two shifts. Kyrou was playing hopscotch - he would pop on, we'd lose possession b/c no one was on the right side, and then he'd have to pop back off. The Joseph-Sunny-Bolduc line had one of the best xGA/60 of any line that played a minimum of 150 minutes - they were just as good, if not better, then the WTF line at holding down the fort - yet by Monty's actions you would never know it. That leads to gassed out players by the end of the game, and then you have situations like we just saw. There's no reason to shorten the bench with 15 minutes to go and up by 2. You roll the lines and continue to play your game, you don't f*** around and give away all the momentum.

I know I should be excited about the long view, b/c it still looks bright, but man I simply cannot right now.
Monty has a horrible past of turtling, happened literally twice in this one series. Great coach but I have concerns about this. We all saw it with Hitch who had great systems but turtled every damn time
 
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Another thing that drives me crazy is that they clog the middle and take away the passing lanes (which is fine) but offer zero pressure on the player with the puck. I watch a lot of hockey and the teams that pressure in those situations seem to have way more success at creating turnovers in that situation and getting the EN.

With the way the Blues, Leafs and others do it (I don't think it's a surprise that Berube's team deploys the same strategy as the Blues), you're essentially hoping to minimize the puck getting through at all, but you have no chance of a turnover, a decreased chance of puck possession and getting an empty netter, and you make it extremely hard on your goaltender if a puck does get through because there's 6-8 guys down low for the puck to deflect off of.

Too much pressure and you'll get burned, but I feel like there has to be a happy medium because what we're doing this season isn't working.

Blues: 13 GA in EN situations
Berube's Leafs: 13 GA in EN situations
 
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I truly don’t understand the negativity in this thread. I thought most of us were on the same page, in that we were just happy to be in the playoffs. And we got a game 7 in overtime! Like, that was just an exciting game of hockey.

Good on the Jets for overcoming everything we threw at them. At the end of the day, we were the Cinderella team against the President’s Trophy winner, and we went the distance.

Excellent learning experience for the younger players. Loved that the kids didn’t look out of place with the elevated level of play in the playoffs.

Now we can look to the draft and Armstrong’s last offseason as GM. He hit a home run last summer; maybe he has one more left in him.
 
I truly don’t understand the negativity in this thread. I thought most of us were on the same page, in that we were just happy to be in the playoffs. And we got a game 7 in overtime! Like, that was just an exciting game of hockey.

Good on the Jets for overcoming everything we threw at them. At the end of the day, we were the Cinderella team against the President’s Trophy winner, and we went the distance.

Excellent learning experience for the younger players. Loved that the kids didn’t look out of place with the elevated level of play in the playoffs.

Now we can look to the draft and Armstrong’s last offseason as GM. He hit a home run last summer; maybe he has one more left in him.
I'm sure in a macro view most of us are happy with what the team accomplished but it's going to take more than 12 hours for the sting of losing Game 7 when you have a 2 goal lead with 2 minutes remaining to go away.

This is group therapy.
 
I’m not overly negative or down about last night because they wildly over performed my expectations, but that was a brutal pants shitting at the end. Just an all time way to lose a game 7.
That's how I feel as well, but if we're going to experience heartbreak like that, I would much rather it be in a season like this, than one where we truly have Cup dreams.
 

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