SeanMoneyHands
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Was Ziggy Palffy an elite talent?
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I think he had Hall of Fame talent but not a level above that, so my answer depends on what you think "elite" means.
MadLuke
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That all about where the elite talent bar is, he would have been the most talented player on a lot of nhl team and finished top 10 in points quite often.
Maybe when talking about all-time great it could be a discussion, but when he was playing he was certainly among the league elite talent of his time.
Maybe when talking about all-time great it could be a discussion, but when he was playing he was certainly among the league elite talent of his time.
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Yes, of course he was an elite talent.
I first saw him play ar the '91 World Juniors, where he was the revelation of the tournament. Fast and talented, a great scorer. He's close to being the most forgotten (to the extent he's forgotten) great scorer of all-time.
He should be in the HHOF (if i had a vote, it would be an easy "Yes"). One of the top scorers of the DPE in the NHL, and in Europe and internationally otherwise.
I first saw him play ar the '91 World Juniors, where he was the revelation of the tournament. Fast and talented, a great scorer. He's close to being the most forgotten (to the extent he's forgotten) great scorer of all-time.
He should be in the HHOF (if i had a vote, it would be an easy "Yes"). One of the top scorers of the DPE in the NHL, and in Europe and internationally otherwise.
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His NHL career was short because he up and left the abysmal Penguins mid-season, apparently because of how bad they were.
But he played in Slovakia into his 40s.
But he played in Slovakia into his 40s.
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With all these descriptive terms, like "elite", it depends a bit on what you put into them yourself, but Palffy was definitely an upper echelon talent, though obviously not on a say Jagr type of level, or even a Bure or Selänne level.
But it's funny if you've seen those old photos of Palffy in juniors where he wears #68 and sports the exact same mullet as Jagr. He looks just like Jagr, except the size.
Perhaps if he had Jagr's size, he could have been really dominant. But I guess you can play that hypothetical game with most players. Size comes with both pros and cons, and you need to be able to adapt your game accordingly.
But I always found Palffy way more offensively well-rounded than countrymen such as Bondra and later Gaborik. He couldn't just score goals, but make plays and drive a line properly as well. I would also prefer him in front of someone like Gartner, fairly easily.
If the thread question was "Was Palffy more elite than Gartner?" then I would say, yeah, he was.
But it's funny if you've seen those old photos of Palffy in juniors where he wears #68 and sports the exact same mullet as Jagr. He looks just like Jagr, except the size.
Perhaps if he had Jagr's size, he could have been really dominant. But I guess you can play that hypothetical game with most players. Size comes with both pros and cons, and you need to be able to adapt your game accordingly.
But I always found Palffy way more offensively well-rounded than countrymen such as Bondra and later Gaborik. He couldn't just score goals, but make plays and drive a line properly as well. I would also prefer him in front of someone like Gartner, fairly easily.
If the thread question was "Was Palffy more elite than Gartner?" then I would say, yeah, he was.
MadLuke
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Some TV color commentator calling him mini-Jagr, he had a bit of same look and overall offensive threat, playmaking, could score on the islander lot of goals, could be part of a really greats (and different incarnation) first lines with the Kings.
Considering the Kings market and his "per-game" performance there, he was good health away (which for the era is saying a lot, not some just) to be a big star, specially if Blake-Deadmarsh also have health and they push and get in great battle in the playoff against the big name western Avs-Wings team of that era and those good audience numbers that come with it.
Considering the Kings market and his "per-game" performance there, he was good health away (which for the era is saying a lot, not some just) to be a big star, specially if Blake-Deadmarsh also have health and they push and get in great battle in the playoff against the big name western Avs-Wings team of that era and those good audience numbers that come with it.
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i never understood why he retired halfway through 05-06 citing "lingering shoulder injury" when he was still a PPG player and then never returned to the NHL. instead he took a season off and tore up the slovak league for another several seasons
the "new" NHL was perfectly suited for him
the "new" NHL was perfectly suited for him
MadLuke
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He was not playing full season there either, outside personal preference of his own country, maybe the 54-56 game season schedule was something his body preferrer.
He never had a full season post 1998 (and often less than 75 games) and during the 2005 lock-out he would have lived that life, so he had a good direct comparison between those 2 options.
it was also a very long break, second half of 06 + the complete 06/07 year, so it could have been a serious should issue.
He never had a full season post 1998 (and often less than 75 games) and during the 2005 lock-out he would have lived that life, so he had a good direct comparison between those 2 options.
it was also a very long break, second half of 06 + the complete 06/07 year, so it could have been a serious should issue.
By P/G he finished 11th (96-97), 13th (97-98), 14th (98-99), 14th (99-00), 4th (00-01), 19th (01-02), 10th (02-03). He didn't play enough games to qualify in 03-04 but was 2nd.
So I'd say on the relatively low end of elite.
So I'd say on the relatively low end of elite.
