Confirmed Trade: [EDM/SJS] Jake Walman for Carl Berglund, 2026 1st round pick

[PuckG]

If they sign him using Kane’s money with the intention of keeping Kane on LTIR (even tho healthy) until playoffs, then yes they will have more healthy players under contract than the salary cap allows for

Kane’s not healthy. Again, have you not paid attention to LTIR operations over the last decade?

 

[BKarchitect]

I have a feeling the return (prospect and conditional pick - knowing the Oilers don't exactly have tons of high-end prospects) will be less than some are expecting if they just look at Walman's counting stats and usage on a team absolutely bereft of capable NHL blueliners.

There's definitely a world where a rental Dumoulin gets more back than Walman, and people are going to be outraged by it based on "stats" - but a lot of it comes down to the type of defenseman teams are looking to add at the deadline and also that often rentals will get higher prices than guys with term when it comes to depth players. I mean, Soucy still has term and got less than Dumoulin as well. Sometimes the "no strings short term fix" is more appealing.

Something like a mid-prospect and a conditional 3rd that maybe turns to a 2nd (don't kill me, not looking at the Oilers draft pick chart here) seems like it might be in the cards.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

I don't really see the fit for the Oilers, but I hope it's a win-win deal. Something around Savoie too crazy? I really haven't been following hockey lately.

If I’m the sharks I take the picks instead. savoie is looking like a classic AAAA player in the same mold as Matthew Phillips. Lights up the AHL but out of his element in the NHL

 

[Nazzz]

Masterclass? Masterclass would’ve been getting paid a 2nd to take him in the offseason.

Getting depth for a contender is harder than selling the entire Sharks locker room

 

[LTIR]

It has nothing to do with what I think of the Oilers. He's poor defensively like Barrie (when he was an Oiler) and lesser offensively. Not sure how you can argue that.

If he was poor defensively then he wouldn't be playing the minutes he gets or let alone be in the NHL.
He would certainly not be returning a 1st.

He is likely an offensive Dman ala Barrie but doesn't make then equal.
Barrie would be -30 on that Sharks team

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Kane’s not healthy. Again, have you not paid attention to LTIR operations over the last decade?

I didn’t say he was. He has gone on record as saying he should be ready to return to the ice on April 1. If that’s the case, then you’d have to agree that what I’m saying is correct

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

Dollar Store Tyson Barrie

It's always the guys who pay to be on this site that know the least about hockey

 

[nturn06]

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I'm wondering if the reported "wrinkle" is finalizing the retention from a third team. I would imagine Klingberg may be involved as a cap piece.

My understanding is that the Oilers don't have a roster spot for him until midnight.

So paperwork cannot be processed until after today's game, when the emergency callup goes sent down.

 

[MessierII]

It's always the guys who pay to be on this site that know the least about hockey

How do you pay to be on this site.

 

[PuckG]

I didn’t say he was. He has gone on record as saying he should be ready to return to the ice on April 1. If that’s the case, then you’d have to agree that what I’m saying is correct

Incorrect.

Kane return to Oilers looking later than sooner as NHL trade deadline looms: TSN analyst

 

[CanadienShark]

If I’m the sharks I take the picks instead. savoie is looking like a classic AAAA player in the same mold as Matthew Phillips. Lights up the AHL but out of his element in the NHL

I appreciate the response! I liked the Savoie trade for the Oilers, but admittedly haven't watched him at all since the trade. And I haven't watched any games for a while now, so my opinion is pretty worthless.

 

[FlameChampion]

I have a feeling the return (prospect and conditional pick - knowing the Oilers don't exactly have tons of high-end prospects) will be less than some are expecting if they just look at Walman's counting stats and usage on a team absolutely bereft of capable NHL blueliners.

There's definitely a world where a rental Dumoulin gets more back than Walman, and people are going to be outraged by it based on "stats" - but a lot of it comes down to the type of defenseman teams are looking to add at the deadline and also that often rentals will get higher prices than guys with term when it comes to depth players. I mean, Soucy still has term and got less than Dumoulin as well. Sometimes the "no strings short term fix" is more appealing.

Something like a mid-prospect and a conditional 3rd that maybe turns to a 2nd (don't kill me, not looking at the Oilers draft pick chart here) seems like it might be in the cards.

Sounds like first and a prospect

 

[joestevens29]

Its a great move by Grier and not arguing Yzerman didn't get shiet value. Just simply Walman doesn't stick around teams for whatever reason that may be...

Drafted in 2014 and in his 4th team isn’t exactly horrible. Especially as Grier was never committed to the guy long term. Just took free assets

 

[Muffin]

Yzerman isnt the only GM to trade him recently. When teams keep moving on from you, its usually for a reason.

You know the difference between paying someone a 2nd round pick to take him and trading him for a 1st round pick right?

 

[BKarchitect]

If he was poor defensively then he wouldn't be playing the minutes he gets or let alone be in the NHL.
He would certainly not be returning a 1st.

He is likely an offensive Dman ala Barrie but doesn't make then equal.
Barrie would be -30 on that Sharks team

There are a lot of guys playing 17 minutes on other teams that would probably be 23 minute defenders on San Jose this year.

Walman is probably a 19 minute #4/5 on a good team who needs a blueline boost. He will help Edmonton and provide an upgrade in certain minutes, and I think Barrie is an exaggeration in terms of his defensive ability. He plays hard. He's not the world's best decision maker though.

 

[Lunatik]

Oh we know talent on defense. We have seen enough good and bad talent to know the difference. Sounds like you are going off narratives from 3 years ago though.

Think what you want, but I'm not one of those troll Oiler haters. But you keep throwing out that troll bait, maybe you'll catch one

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Who's the worse GM, Bowman, for trading a 1st for an offensive dman going to a team that has just offense and has no defense or goaltending, or yzerman who traded a 2nd to unload a player who was traded for a 1st 50 games later?

Mike Grier cooked at least.

 

[joestevens29]

I appreciate the response! I liked the Savoie trade for the Oilers, but admittedly haven't watched him at all since the trade. And I haven't watched any games for a while now, so my opinion is pretty worthless.

Delete

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Incorrect.

Kane return to Oilers looking later than sooner as NHL trade deadline looms: TSN analyst

Sounds like the team’s PR dept softening the blow that they’ve given up on winning the cup with McDrai through legitimate means and will be resorting to Vegas/TB style chicanery. Sad!

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

UGH

Pain.

 

[Roof Daddy]

So I’m guessing the D is deployed like this:

Ekholm-Bouch
Nurse-Kulak
Walman-Emberson

 

[CanadienShark]

Delete

Now I'm curious what you said.

 

[PuckG]

Sounds like the team’s PR dept softening the blow that they’ve given up on winning the cup with McDrai through legitimate means and will be resorting to Vegas/TB style chicanery. Sad!

Moronic to shift goalposts now. Sad!

 

[Lunatik]

If he was poor defensively then he wouldn't be playing the minutes he gets or let alone be in the NHL.
He would certainly not be returning a 1st.

He is likely an offensive Dman ala Barrie but doesn't make then equal.
Barrie would be -30 on that Sharks team

He was on the f***ing Sharks, clearly you never saw their blueline

 

[nturn06]

There could be conditions to which pick the Sharks get depending on which pick gets traded to Philly.