Walking away from Timothy Liljegren is a mistake

[LegChairGM]

He's due a 1.5m qualifying offer by 5 pm EST today if not he becomes a UFA and Sportsnet is reporting his future on the team is wildly uncertain. I must be missing something here, homegrown 25 year old right shot d with a solid stat line the last three seasons and we let him walk for nothing?

The last two days have lest me scratching my head here, drafting off the board numerous times, once for a player that weighs 135 pounds, trading for the rights to try to sign a 34 year old Tanev for 7 years and now potentially walking from Liljegren? I mean, if you don't have room for Liljegren(you should) do you not at least qualify him and trade him or potentially receive something on an offer sheet?

What gives Treliving?

Here's the quote from Sportsnet:

"They still hold negotiating rights to another one, Timothy Liljegren — but his future is wildly uncertain as a restricted free agent with arbitration rights.

Liljegren, 25, is due a $1.5 million qualifying offer by Sunday at 5 p.m. ET. No offer, and Liljegren becomes unrestricted. If Treliving retains Liljegren's rights, he could trade the player or be forced to give him a raise in arbitration."

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[RoadWarrior]

He's due a 1.5m qualifying offer by 5 pm EST today if not he becomes a UFA and Sportsnet is reporting his future on the team is wildly uncertain. I must be missing something here, homegrown 25 year old right shot d with a solid stat line the last three seasons and we let him walk for nothing?

The last two days have lest me scratching my head here, drafting off the board numerous times, once for a player that weighs 135 pounds, trading for the rights to try to sign a 34 year old Tanev for 7 years and now potentially walking from Liljegren? I mean, if you don't have room for Liljegren(you should) do you not at least qualify him and trade him or potentially receive something on an offer sheet?

What gives Treliving?

Here's the quote from Sportsnet:

"They still hold negotiating rights to another one, Timothy Liljegren — but his future is wildly uncertain as a restricted free agent with arbitration rights.

Liljegren, 25, is due a $1.5 million qualifying offer by Sunday at 5 p.m. ET. No offer, and Liljegren becomes unrestricted. If Treliving retains Liljegren's rights, he could trade the player or be forced to give him a raise in arbitration."

Qualying him and trading him makes the most sense. He’s still got a future in the NHL as a mobile right shot D but the leafs have apparently given up on him despite his positive progression.

 

[DarkKnight]

Unless you’ve watched him.

Qualify him and trade him.

 

[Burnie97]

They probably sign him and trade him.

They've probably been looking for the best deal they can get.

They don't seem to high on him now.

I don't mind Lilly. I'd be fine giving him another shot but either way they need to get something for him. Don't just let him walk.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Not qualifying him is just a dumb move

 

[Brobust]

I don't see how it makes sense for his agent to negotiate hard enough to the point of leaving him unqualified. He's not getting $1.4M+ as a UFA.

 

[IceColdBear]

I don't see how it makes sense for his agent to negotiate hard enough to the point of leaving him unqualified. He's not getting $1.4M+ as a UFA.

He would easily get more than 1.4 m as a UFA.

25 year old right shot D who can skate - he's had his ups and downs, but on the open market, he's an attractive piece. He'd probably get something like 2.5m x 4 if he were unrestricted.

 

[stickty111]

If you don't want to keep him, fine. Just qualify and trade him. No excuse to not qualify him.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Qualifying him is a no brainer

I don't see how it makes sense for his agent to negotiate hard enough to the point of leaving him unqualified. He's not getting $1.4M+ as a UFA.

Of course he would

 

[LegChairGM]

I don't see how it makes sense for his agent to negotiate hard enough to the point of leaving him unqualified. He's not getting $1.4M+ as a UFA.

I think he's easily getting $2.75m x 4 as a UFA to be honest. 25 year old mobile right shot defensemen that can give you 30 points on a full season aren't that easy to find. Only knock against him is he's somewhat injury prone(55gp).

Edit: When I created this post IceColdBear hadn't posted yet, we think alike apparently. Not trying to steal his opinion here.

 

[disgruntleddave]

He would easily get more than 1.4 m as a UFA.

25 year old right shot D who can skate - he's had his ups and downs, but on the open market, he's an attractive piece. He'd probably get something like 2.5m x 4 if he were unrestricted.

He can skate, like every other nhl player can skate. But he's not a good skater by nhl standards. To my eyes he's an average or worse skater compared to his peers.

 

[Buds17]

Liljegren going without a qualifying offer seems like it'd be the worst path possible for both parties involved here.

 

[trellaine201]

Qualying him and trading him makes the most sense. He’s still got a future in the NHL as a mobile right shot D but the leafs have apparently given up on him despite his positive progression.

Like they gave up on Sandin.

 

[egd27]

I find it amusing that anyone would even consider not qualifying him.

 

[trellaine201]

I find it amusing that anyone would even consider not qualifying him.

Yeah seems cheap for that player IMO

 

[BertCorbeau]

$1.5 for a quality bottom pairing RHD at minimum is an easy yes.

 

[Racer88]

They will either qualify him or trade this afternoon. In the world of negotiations 5 pm is a long way off

 

[LeafSteel]

Liljegren hasn’t done anything to merit such shitty treatment by the Leafs not to be qualified.

I still think he has untapped potential and is a reasonable 3RHD option.

Losing him for nothing would just be so stupid and idiotic asset mismanagement.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

I really hope they're actually waiting on some contracts to get signed before tendering a qo. This is very dumb otherwise.

 

[hamzarocks]

Trade gim for tomasino on the preds

preds are shopping tomasino as they dont think hes a LT fit and their management and coach doesnt like him

Preds also could use a RHD

 

[sxvnert]

Its the only move. Qualifying him will lead to arb and then a much bigger amount for a player whos at best a bottom pairing D that cant be trusted in the post season. ENOUGH ALREADY.

 

[Menzinger]

Trading him is fine, losing him for nothing as an rfa would be a big mistake and self inflicted error by the team

 

[BM14]

I agree but they’ve destroyed this kid’s confidence. Sad to see.

 

[rumman]

I think he's easily getting $2.75m x 4 as a UFA to be honest. 25 year old mobile right shot defensemen that can give you 30 points on a full season aren't that easy to find. Only knock against him is he's somewhat injury prone(55gp).

Edit: When I created this post IceColdBear hadn't posted yet, we think alike apparently. Not trying to steal his opinion here.

Only the Leaf are stipid enough to do that…..

He can skate, like every other nhl player can skate. But he's not a good skater by nhl standards. To my eyes he's an average or worse skater compared to his peers.

Swedish Elite League fodder, big ice, no contact, perfect landing spot……

 

[rumman]

They will either qualify him or trade this afternoon. In the world of negotiations 5 pm is a long way off

Flip him to Seattle for the other Tanev, that ought to knock off few dollar off Chris’ deal……..

Its the only move. Qualifying him will lead to arb and then a much bigger amount for a player whos at best a bottom pairing D that cant be trusted in the post season. ENOUGH ALREADY.

They can walk away from the arbitrator’s decision can they not?