W Jimmy Snuggerud - Minnesota Golden Gophers, NCAA (2022, 23rd, STL)

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Better than spending a full year riding the bus in the AHL. Sorry for the criticism this year, Jimmy, welcome back!
 
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Hope it’s for real and not a Cooley kind of comeback. I think college is a good spot for him next year, still has room to grow his game and get ready for the level of physicality in the NHL.
 

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Hope it’s for real and not a Cooley kind of comeback. I think college is a good spot for him next year, still has room to grow his game and get ready for the level of physicality in the NHL.
I don't think his dad would let him tarnish their name inside the Gopher program and pull that.
 

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oooof... When does St Louis start worrying that he is a flight risk to stay all 4 yrs at College and become a free agent. The Minnesota Wild would be the favorite to land the local kid.
 
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oooof... When does St Louis start worrying that he is a flight risk to stay all 4 yrs at College and become a free agent. The Minnesota Wild would be the favorite to land the local kid.

I wouldn't be too worried yet. Not sure if any reporter caught wind if the Blues were offering to burn the first year immediately or if they wanted his ELC to start next year. Or if Snuggerud had a sense that he'd be starting in the AHL and simply preferred to remain in school.

Staying all four years and going the August 15th route has financial ramifications for the player. They'd delay their RFA clock and possibly cost themselves a decent chunk of change. Just by comparison, 2010 1st rounders Nick Bjugstad (signed after junior year) and Kevin Hayes (played all four years, signed after August 15th):

Bjugstad (3 year ELC signing at 21)
2012-13: ELC1
2013-14: ELC2
2014-15: ELC3
2015-16: 2.85 mil (RFA extension @4.1 mil AAV)
2016-17: 3.35 mil
2017-18: 3.85 mil

Hayes (2 year ELC signing at 22)
2014-15: ELC1
2015-16: ELC2
2016-17: 2.6 mil (RFA extension 2 x 2.6 mil AAV)
2017-18: 2.6 mil
 
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I wouldn't be too worried yet. Not sure if any reporter caught wind if the Blues were offering to burn the first year immediately or if they wanted his ELC to start next year. Or if Snuggerud had a sense that he'd be starting in the AHL and simply preferred to remain in school.

Staying all four years and going the August 15th route has financial ramifications for the player. They'd delay their RFA clock and possibly cost themselves a decent chunk of change. Just by comparison, 2010 1st rounders Nick Bjugstad (signed after junior year) and Kevin Hayes (played all four years, signed after August 15th):

Bjugstad (3 year ELC signing at 21)
2012-13: ELC1
2013-14: ELC2
2014-15: ELC3
2015-16: 2.85 mil (RFA extension @4.1 mil AAV)
2016-17: 3.35 mil
2017-18: 3.85 mil

Hayes (2 year ELC signing at 22)
2014-15: ELC1
2015-16: ELC2
2016-17: 2.6 mil (RFA extension 2 x 2.6 mil AAV)
2017-18: 2.6 mil
I don’t think it’s likely he stays for 4 years, but I will say that money is probably less of a motivating factor for him with his family situation compared to many prospects.
 
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I wouldn't be too worried yet. Not sure if any reporter caught wind if the Blues were offering to burn the first year immediately or if they wanted his ELC to start next year. Or if Snuggerud had a sense that he'd be starting in the AHL and simply preferred to remain in school.

Staying all four years and going the August 15th route has financial ramifications for the player. They'd delay their RFA clock and possibly cost themselves a decent chunk of change. Just by comparison, 2010 1st rounders Nick Bjugstad (signed after junior year) and Kevin Hayes (played all four years, signed after August 15th):

Bjugstad (3 year ELC signing at 21)
2012-13: ELC1
2013-14: ELC2
2014-15: ELC3
2015-16: 2.85 mil (RFA extension @4.1 mil AAV)
2016-17: 3.35 mil
2017-18: 3.85 mil

Hayes (2 year ELC signing at 22)
2014-15: ELC1
2015-16: ELC2
2016-17: 2.6 mil (RFA extension 2 x 2.6 mil AAV)
2017-18: 2.6 mil

College Players can make money on NIL now too...who knows how much boosters are paying these players to stay in the school program. Plus at the end of it, Jimmy can choose the pro team of his liking. Doesnt sound like a bad idea.
 

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College Players can make money on NIL now too...who knows how much boosters are paying these players to stay in the school program. Plus at the end of it, Jimmy can choose the pro team of his liking. Doesnt sound like a bad idea.

It doesn't sound like NIL is affecting hockey as much as other sports.


“You’re hearing million-dollar deals for football and basketball,” Minnesota coach Bob Motzko said. “Our players get burritos.”

A Michigan NIL club has 61 members who have pledged $913 per month. Split among the 21 participating players, that’s $522 annually apiece. That’s a far cry from the $13 million deal that collapsed between the Gators and quarterback recruit Jaden Rashada.

Instead of giant collective paydays, hockey deals have been more about camps, gear and, yes, free food.

And going back to Snuggerud, it could just come down to him enjoying the college lifestyle. I wouldn't begrudge him for wanting another year of that.

I wish I could track down the article/podcast, but I seem to recall that Tage Thompson advised his younger brother Tyce to go back for his junior year. Tage signed after his sophomore season and spent the next year split between the AHL/NHL. If given the chance, it sounded like Tage would have stuck around for his third year.
 

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It was a good but not great year for him. For his draft position his year was fine but for the trajectory he'd been on from the draft through his freshman season it was a bit of a disappointment. Given that and his legacy status, not surprising at all that he's returning.
 
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It doesn't sound like NIL is affecting hockey as much as other sports.






And going back to Snuggerud, it could just come down to him enjoying the college lifestyle. I wouldn't begrudge him for wanting another year of that.

I wish I could track down the article/podcast, but I seem to recall that Tage Thompson advised his younger brother Tyce to go back for his junior year. Tage signed after his sophomore season and spent the next year split between the AHL/NHL. If given the chance, it sounded like Tage would have stuck around for his third year.

Pretty much this....college hockey simply does not generate the revenue nor the hype for large NIL deals, and as you already stated, you are leaving a good chuck of change on the table by staying an extra year. Although money isnt as important to those who already have it,
 

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It was a good but not great year for him. For his draft position his year was fine but for the trajectory he'd been on from the draft through his freshman season it was a bit of a disappointment. Given that and his legacy status, not surprising at all that he's returning.
Like the potential of Moore, Rinzel and Snuggerud all making big strides. Could be a really solid team next year
 

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Minnesota should be the favorite heading into next season.

Too early to say. There could be some loaded teams next year depending on who goes pro. If the BC freshman return (no guarantee of course), their team will be stupid stacked again.

I'm sure Minnesota will pick up some good transfers that will change things, too. They need a goalie for sure. And maybe a grad transfer or two to help balance loss of Brodzinski and Nelson. They'll have a good balance of recruits Ziemer, Hendrickson, Gruba, and Påhlsson, the latter two will be 20+, which often means high impact freshman even if limited pro potential.
 

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MSU was offering some recruits a 50K or so package in the last recruiting cycle

That was brought up on college hockey news and debunked

Money isn’t there in college hockey

Logan coley had the most notable one of free chipotle
Denver players have always gotten free chipotle because the first one was on Denver’s campus

Michigan players got some bikes or scooter
uND had a restaurant collective
BU and BC were Jimmy John’s

Like I said no money in NIL especially sports that aren’t head count sports
 

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Sounds like he was pretty positive he would sign this week (Blues and Him were talking about burning a year of his ELC and playing as early as Thursday) and then the hunger for one more shot at the NCAA title hit, as well as feeling he let his team and fans down.

Honestly, as a Blues fan, I welcome the hunger and wanting to fix what he deems unacceptable. Go prove the last 3 months were a fluke and tear it up one more year in college, us Blues fans will be waiting with open arms next spring Snuggy.
 
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That was brought up on college hockey news and debunked

Money isn’t there in college hockey

Logan coley had the most notable one of free chipotle
Denver players have always gotten free chipotle because the first one was on Denver’s campus

Michigan players got some bikes or scooter
uND had a restaurant collective
BU and BC were Jimmy John’s

Like I said no money in NIL especially sports that aren’t head count sports


NIL does exist in college hockey but at a much smaller scale than the big head sports but 50k for a high end recruit is certainly plausible. I did hear rumors of some high end recruits receiving 6 figure deals and while nothing was confirmed, that would not shock me. NIL in college hockey, relative to what an entry level signing deal in the NHL is small potatoes and that is what I meant when I posted that a NIL deal would not keep Jimmy from signing a NHL contract.
 

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That was brought up on college hockey news and debunked

Money isn’t there in college hockey

Logan coley had the most notable one of free chipotle
Denver players have always gotten free chipotle because the first one was on Denver’s campus

Michigan players got some bikes or scooter
uND had a restaurant collective
BU and BC were Jimmy John’s

Like I said no money in NIL especially sports that aren’t head count sports
Hey look, it's CHN saying otherwise.
 

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