Value of: Vladislav Gavrikov at TDL

PizzaAndPucks

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What would Columbus be looking for in a trade for someone like Gavrikov at the trade deadline this year ? Are they looking to sign him to an extension or move him at the deadline ?

He has been playing as high as 27 minutes a night with Werenski being out injured. He only has 5 points this season but somehow is a respectable -1 on a slumping Blue Jackets team. I see many teams being interested but also see Columbus probably wanting to keep this guy on a somewhat long term deal.
 

Viqsi

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We want to sign him to an extension if possible.

If we can't, he probably gets traded at the deadline. The baseline deal is a mid-to-late 1st in 2023 or an equivalent prospect that meets positional/skillset team needs. Please note the use of "a" and "an", thus indicating singulars, or single assets; that is to say, no "these guys combined add up to" attempts at equivalents.

Having said that, I expect four of the next five proposals in this thread to fall short of this due to any or all of:
1) someone not bothering to even look and just posting whatever
2) someone overlooking the "single asset" part
3) someone posting whatever regardless, insisting the rules don't apply to their precious precious team
4) someone deliberately posting something contrary to this in an attempt at "wit"
 

Crede777

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Option A is to sign him to a good deal.

Option B is trade him at the TDL with the return varying based on if it's a sign and trade or not. Lowest I think the Jackets would go for him is a mid-late 1st in this year's draft.
 

koteka

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What type of prospects do the jackets need the most?

His value seems like a late first though

Centers and only centers. We have more wings than we can play, including Laine and Gaudreau. We do not need wings. Also we drafted 2 first round D this year and 1 first round D in 2021. So we probably don’t need a D prospect.
 

EK392000

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From the Leafs, I'd offer 2023 First + Justin Holl (upcoming UFA+make salaries work) + B- prospect

For

Gavrikov with 800k retained
 

Viqsi

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Centers and only centers. We have more wings than we can play, including Laine and Gaudreau. We do not need wings. Also we drafted 2 first round D this year and 1 first round D in 2021. So we probably don’t need a D prospect.
More specifically, we've got a lack of those two-way "reliable worker bee" types in the system.
 

Recipe Unlimited

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We want to sign him to an extension if possible.

If we can't, he probably gets traded at the deadline. The baseline deal is a mid-to-late 1st in 2023 or an equivalent prospect that meets positional/skillset team needs. Please note the use of "a" and "an", thus indicating singulars, or single assets; that is to say, no "these guys combined add up to" attempts at equivalents.

Having said that, I expect four of the next five proposals in this thread to fall short of this due to any or all of:
1) someone not bothering to even look and just posting whatever
2) someone overlooking the "single asset" part
3) someone posting whatever regardless, insisting the rules don't apply to their precious precious team
4) someone deliberately posting something contrary to this in an attempt at "wit"
Considering you're not the GM of the Blue Jackets, I don't think every trade proposal has to follow your exact rules. Live a little and enjoy Hfboards.com instead :heart:
 

McSuper

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We want to sign him to an extension if possible.

If we can't, he probably gets traded at the deadline. The baseline deal is a mid-to-late 1st in 2023 or an equivalent prospect that meets positional/skillset team needs. Please note the use of "a" and "an", thus indicating singulars, or single assets; that is to say, no "these guys combined add up to" attempts at equivalents.

Having said that, I expect four of the next five proposals in this thread to fall short of this due to any or all of:
1) someone not bothering to even look and just posting whatever
2) someone overlooking the "single asset" part
3) someone posting whatever regardless, insisting the rules don't apply to their precious precious team
4) someone deliberately posting something contrary to this in an attempt at "wit"
1st + your choice of Foegele, Puljujarvi or Yamamoto + Murray.
 

cbjthrowaway

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At the deadline I'd offer 2024 1st + Kupari from Kings
Kupari + a 1st is the deal that would best suit our needs. I'd probably push for it to be a conditional 2023 first that slides to 2024 if LAK doesn't make the playoffs.

1st + your choice of Foegele, Puljujarvi or Yamamoto + Murray.
I wouldn't mind a 1st + Puljujarvi, but I think CBJ would prefer to have McLeod in the deal somewhere.

What type of prospects do the jackets need the most?
Really it's just centers. That said, I could see a hockey trade of Gavrikov+ for Reinhart when Florida runs into cap issues because that's gonna hit them like a freight train.
 
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Ollie Weeks

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Kupari + a 1st is the deal that would best suit our needs. I'd probably push for it to be a conditional 2023 first that slides to 2024 if LAK doesn't make the playoffs.
I could live with that from the Kings side of things.
 

kings11

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We want to sign him to an extension if possible.

If we can't, he probably gets traded at the deadline. The baseline deal is a mid-to-late 1st in 2023 or an equivalent prospect that meets positional/skillset team needs. Please note the use of "a" and "an", thus indicating singulars, or single assets; that is to say, no "these guys combined add up to" attempts at equivalents.

Having said that, I expect four of the next five proposals in this thread to fall short of this due to any or all of:
1) someone not bothering to even look and just posting whatever
2) someone overlooking the "single asset" part
3) someone posting whatever regardless, insisting the rules don't apply to their precious precious team
4) someone deliberately posting something contrary to this in an attempt at "wit"
Let me make a correction for you..
No one is trading a mid 1st in this years draft for a defensive Dman that needs a new contract in which he’ll likely ask for $5+ per. With that said, a 1st in 2024 is more likely along with a B prospect.
Each draft affects the TDL differently and this is one where you keep your pick.
 

cbjthrowaway

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Let me make a correction for you..
No one is trading a mid 1st in this years draft for a defensive Dman that needs a new contract in which he’ll likely ask for $5+ per. With that said, a 1st in 2024 is more likely along with a B prospect.
Each draft affects the TDL differently and this is one where you keep your pick.
Dude's got way more of a two-way game than people here think. Very good player in transition.

Had 5-28–33 last year with no power play time while playing 22+ minutes a night and getting more d-zone starts than any other defenseman on our team.

Bottom line is he's a versatile defenseman with size who could fill any role, from being a heavy minutes shutdown guy to a steady top pair guy opposite an offensively-minded RD (i.e. the Methot to someone's Karlsson).

He can play either side, is cheap this year, and probably won't break the bank with an extension.

That's a really valuable piece. Chariot and Savard both fetched first round picks; Gavrikov is a far better player than either of them – younger and cheaper, too – he's just stuck on a bad team that people don't go out of their way to watch.
 

kings11

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Dude's got way more of a two-way game than people here think. Very good player in transition.

Had 5-28–33 last year with no power play time while playing 22+ minutes a night and getting more d-zone starts than any other defenseman on our team.

Bottom line is he's a versatile defenseman with size who could fill any role, from being a heavy minutes shutdown guy to a steady top pair guy opposite an offensively-minded RD (i.e. the Methot to someone's Karlsson).

He can play either side, is cheap this year, and probably won't break the bank with an extension.

That's a really valuable piece. Chariot and Savard both fetched first round picks; Gavrikov is a far better player than either of them – younger and cheaper, too – he's just stuck on a bad team that people don't go out of their way to watch.
Nice rant but the fact remains that you’ll be very hard pressed to get a 2023 1st round in such a deep draft. So again, a 2024 1st is much more likely
 

cbjthrowaway

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Nice rant but the fact remains that you’ll be very hard pressed to get a 2023 1st round in such a deep draft. So again, a 2024 1st is much more likely
Teams trading their first will likely be anticipating that their pick falls in the 20-30 range.

The last draft that was this deep was 2015. Six of the 11 picks from 20-30 got traded. Most of those were on draft day but those picks are far more moveable than you think.
 
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Viqsi

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Let me make a correction
Stopped reading here. He is our asset, and we are the seller, and so we set the price, and so whatever you have to say is incapable of being relevant.

Seriously, I no longer have any time or patience left for folks who want to dictate sales terms. Pay up or shut up.
 

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