Rumor: Vladimir Tarasenko requests a trade

[TheNumber4]

Thought this was the case. Atleast weren't Blues fans already shopping him around?

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

There are rumors he wasn’t happy about not being named captain last year, wonder if that plays into that? Maybe rubbed some people the wrong way?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Jo Drouin would gladly wear a Blues jersey

First name I thought of. That’s the type of trade you’re going to see. No team would give up any actual good value given the risks but a swap for another high risk/reward player with relatively high salary makes sense.

 

[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

Ales hemsky 2.0
Just kidding, Hemmer was better.

 

[aufheben]

What is you idea of peanuts.
My idea of fair value is 1st 2021 and an A level prospect.

I just want to be clear so we can see who was right if a trade happens.

2021 “1st” could be one of the most valuable assets in the league, or it could be the the equivalent of a high-2nd.

If you want to make bets with people, where in the 1st?

 

[Colt55]

First name I thought of. That’s the type of trade you’re going to see. No team would give up any actual good value given the risks but a swap for another high risk/reward player with relatively high salary makes sense.

Yeah but drouin isn't a berube type player.

 

[seafoam]

Eberle, picks/prospects + cap space for Tarasenko?

Lou is a crazy man and loves Russians w/ pedigree.

 

[BigHabs]

Gallagher
Kulak

For

Tarasenko
Dunn(RFA)

 

[All Mighty]

Yeah but drouin isn't a berube type player.

Humor me, what do you think a realistic trade for Tarasenko would look like?

 

[Colt55]

2021 “1st” could be one of the most valuable assets in the league, or it could be the the equivalent of a high-2nd.

If you want to make bets with people, where in the 1st?

I would say 18 to 28 should be about the same in this draft. When I say A level prospect. I am not talking blue chipper I mean like a robert thomas or even a kyrou before they made nhl.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

He's going to be difficult to move considering his injury history and recent play

That is my thought as well. He was fairly healthy early in his career but only 34 games in the last 2 seasons is definitely a big risk to take given how much he makes. I still think he could get a late 1st round pick though.

If the Kraken end up getting 1-2 more 1st round picks this year, I would definitely consider trading for him in deal around one of those picks.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah but drouin isn't a berube type player.

Would a team like St. Louis really try to build around a coach like that? You’d think they’d just take the best deal they can. It’s not like they’re going to have a lot of great trade options to choose between.

 

[Colt55]

Humor me, what do you think a realistic trade for Tarasenko would look like?

My previous ask was
1st edm 19ova 2021 and samorukov possible 1.5 retention.

Something like that 1st for this weak draft and a defensive prospect (lhd) nhl ready very soon. Some one that could replace scandella in the future.

 

[Bourdon]

The rumored blues offer wasn’t much less money wise than what he got. But the combo of the no NMC thing and him wanting another challenge/change of scenery/whatever you call it is what a lot of us are thinking.

I think Pietro felt disrespected that the Blues played hard ball with him, a guy that was underpaid for the duration of his Blues career and their team captain.

The fact that they traded for Faulk and signed him to a 6.5M/yr, 45.5M contract without Faulk having played a single game for them...I know I would feel slighted and underappreciated. Like I just won you this cup and you're not willing to take care of me and my family?

I know this is a contentious point among Blues fans, some look at Pietro as a selfish player, a judas or something, but from an outsider pov, it seems to me like the relationship couldn't be repaired because of that disrespect.

 

[Colt55]

Would a team like St. Louis really try to build around a coach like that? You’d think they’d just take the best deal they can. It’s not like they’re going to have a lot of great trade options to choose between.

We don't know that. Especially if several teams show interest. We are talking about one of the prolific goal scorers in last 7 8 years. He had back to back injuries but if he returns to 30 goals 60 points that's a win. If you watched him.play every game.last year he was steadily improving. Who knows though till it happens. I mean blues got ror for nothing. So I guess we will see

 

[FSL KINGS]

Kings are in a position to take on the whole contract if that helps.

 

[Colt55]

Would a team like St. Louis really try to build around a coach like that? You’d think they’d just take the best deal they can. It’s not like they’re going to have a lot of great trade options to choose between.

Yes he gets results and the players respect him. After hitch yeo I will take berube all day long

 

[axlrose87]

Lol are ypu serious. You think that guy is the basis of a trade for tarasenko lol. Good grief

I don’t think he is far off.
Do you believe Tarasenko has positive value right now? I certainly don’t

 

[Thallis]

The second shoulder surgery fixed the botched surgery
.he played 28 games at end of year and looked good towards the end and then played very well in playoffs. He then played 5 or 6 for international and was best player. So if you haven't watched him play how can you evaluate him.

The 3rd surgery fixed the ligament. The first 2 were botched.

 

[Colt55]

Kings are in a position to take on the whole contract if that helps.

It doesn't kings fans are super un willing to part with anything of value

 

[Colt55]

I don’t think he is far off.
Do you believe Tarasenko has positive value right now? I certainly don’t

Yes I do think he has positive value so do a lot of people.

 

[FSL KINGS]

It doesn't kings fans are super un willing to part with anything of value

7.5M for 2 years is valuable.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

I think Pietro felt disrespected that the Blues played hard ball with him, a guy that was underpaid for the duration of his Blues career and their team captain.

The fact that they traded for Faulk and signed him to a 6.5M/yr, 45.5M contract without Faulk having played a single game for them...I know I would feel slighted and underappreciated. Like I just won you this cup and you're not willing to take care of me and my family?

I know this is a contentious point among Blues fans, some look at Pietro as a selfish player, a judas or something, but from an outsider pov, it seems to me like the relationship couldn't be repaired because of that disrespect.

To try not and derail this thread too much, they had contract talks pre-Faulk trade, so to me it seems like those didn’t go well, and both sides agreed to “re-visit talks later” but both already knew it was over. It sucks, I absolutely hate he’s not on this team anymore and have no hard feelings towards him, but what’s done is done.

Same with Tarasenko when he’s inevitably gone.

 

[Colt55]

Gallagher
Kulak

For

Tarasenko
Dunn(RFA)

Why absolutely not. That's bad.

 

[SI90]

Definitely a buy low scenario if STL doesn’t retain any salary.

there was a time I would have killed for him to play with Barzal but that shoulder and injury makes me nervous.